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    What is the difference between a hub motor for the front wheel vs a hub motor for the back wheel? Can I switch to back wheel easily? What additional hardware would I need?

    I ordered a magic pie for the front and it works fantastic but I might need to move it to the back due to the fact that my new bike rack requires removal of the front wheel each time for transport which means having to pull the wheel each time. >sigh<

    SO....If I just put the wheel on the back problem solved. Obviously, I would need to add the cassette, but I didn't know if there is a difference between the two motors otherwise that I need to be aware of.

    Thanks for the help.

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    • Tommycat
      Tommycat commented
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      Hi Troy!

      Good to see another Pie rider. :-)

      Alan points out the differences HERE. But without a donor rear motor. (perhaps one with a bad winding someone would sell for cheap) and the right tools. It doesn't sound cost effective or easy. But with determination and no other choice, anything is possible...

      I don't know if my harness mod would help you on your front motor with ease of removal or not... see it here.

      https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...3411#post73411





      Perhaps a modification of your rack, or a different one?


      Regards,
      T.C.

    • paxtana
      paxtana commented
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      The dropout width on your bike is not the same for the front as the rear. What you are proposing is unlikely to work on a typical bike frame.

    • Troy
      Troy commented
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      Thanks for the tip Tommy, Ill check that out.

    Regarding the Banana bike...I built mine with Luna's Triangle 28ah battery and love the power and range. The bags that hold that battery however couldn't hang from the top tube of the Banana frame without tearing...I had to rest the battery bag on the down tube and use flying zip ties from the top tube to the bag to keep the battery in place. It looks weird, and there's a better way. If there were a pair of "forks" to mount in the down tube area to hold the 28ah Triangle in place, I could secure it without the flying zip ties. Anybody know where I can get such "forks"?

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    • paxtana
      paxtana commented
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      You could probably use hardware slotted meyal flats to rig something up. Or just build a custom battery box

    • indyengr
      indyengr commented
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      Is there anywhere I could send a cad file and have a custom battery box milled or 3-D printed? I'd prefer plastic but aluminum may be necessary I admit.

    I have an Electra Townie EQ 7D men’s bike and my wife has the same bike women’s model. Can you tell me what I need to order to put Cyclone 3000 watt mid drives on these please?

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    Looking to convert a 2013 Raleigh Tripper (3-speed shimano IGH) and trying to figure out what I need for a BB adapter for the Tongsheng TSDZ2. Since it's an IGH it currently has an eccentric PF30 BB for chain tensioning. TSDZ2 requires threaded (?) BSA. There are plenty of PF30 to threaded BSA adapters, but worried about the chain tension issue because of the IGH hub.

    Would this work? https://lunacycle.com/american-style...o-bsa-adapter/
    Or this? https://lunacycle.com/luna-threaded-...ttom-brackets/

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      Originally posted by ImMho View Post
      Looking to convert a 2013 Raleigh Tripper (3-speed shimano IGH) ,,,
      Vertical droputs, like this?


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      Originally posted by ImMho View Post
      and trying to figure out what I need for a BB adapter for the Tongsheng TSDZ2. Since it's an IGH it currently has an eccentric PF30 BB for chain tensioning. TSDZ2 requires threaded (?) BSA. There are plenty of PF30 to threaded BSA adapters, but worried about the chain tension issue because of the IGH hub.
      Originally posted by ImMho View Post
      Nope, that one is for the old-style Ashtabula BB


      Originally posted by ImMho;n87141Or this? [URL
      https://lunacycle.com/luna-threaded-bb-adapter-for-niner-eccentric-bottom-brackets/[/URL]
      I doubt you need a BB adapter. I'd try:
      1. buy/install a chain tensioner on the existing dropout arm - make it fit/work. Once it does, THEN
      2. pull the current BB
      3. reset the eccentric inner hole to the bottom center of the rotation
      4. buy/install the TSDZ2 and likely that special, offset 42 tooth chainring
      Last edited by ncrkd; 05-20-2019, 11:20 AM.
      2nd build, 2018 Crust Scapegoat, BBS02 or BBSHD, Rohloff IGH
      3rd build, 2018 Crust Evasion step-thru, BBS02, Shimano Nexus INTER-3 IGH
      4th build, 2016 Salsa Marrakesh flatbar frameset, BBSHD, Alfine 8 IGH
      Other, Electronic throttle lock

      Visit the forum knowledge base

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        I'm a newbie here. I'm looking to invest in a Trek 1120 and I'm interested to know if I can fit a Bafang BBSHD to this particular bike? I've read a bit on this forum and it seems that the BB on this bike is pressed on and I may need an adapter? if so, which adapter? also, which motor kit will I need? Thank you .
        Rob

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        Charging question. I have the Luna 300W advanced charger. so there's a lot of adjustability. The booklet that came with the battery or charger said the first 5-6 times you charge the battery you should charge it to 100% and let it sit to balance. But I have 2 questions. "Ideally" should I use the 3 amp setting 1 amp, 5 amp or it doesn't really matter? When the battery reaches 100% and the charger clicks off should i then unplug everything or leave it plugged in for a certain amount of time after it initially turns off? I'm not sure if the charger trickle charges for balancing after initially shutting off or if thats something that happens once you fully charge the battery unplug it and let it sit.

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Ideally if you are trying to treat your battery gently for longest life, then you always want to charge as slowly as is convenient. This is as true for the first charge as the 100th.

          When the charger stops charging you should be good to unplug and use whenever you want. If the fan is not running then it's done.

        • pure_mahem
          pure_mahem commented
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          Thank You!

        Originally posted by ncrkd View Post

        Vertical droputs, like this?

        I doubt you need a BB adapter. I'd try:
        1. buy/install a chain tensioner on the existing dropout arm - make it fit/work. Once it does, THEN
        2. pull the current BB
        3. reset the eccentric inner hole to the bottom center of the rotation
        4. buy/install the TSDZ2 and likely that special, offset 42 tooth chainring
        Thanks for the advice. Yes, it's a vertical dropout.

        I was really hoping to avoid a tensioner as this will be a bike ridden in MN winters, but I see after some searching today that there are these "rollenlager" style tensioners with no sprockets. Trying to avoid that since they can get gummed up with snow and ice.

        So long story short, I think I can get away with a simple PF30 - BSA BB adapter and I'll be set! Thanks again.

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        • ncrkd
          ncrkd commented
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          I'm concerned that you will loose access to the eccentric clamping bolts once you mount the motor, but don't know what eccentric design the bike used.
          Last edited by ncrkd; 05-21-2019, 08:58 AM.

        Hello - do you know when these two items will be back in stock:

        ISIS bottom bracket 69-73mm for Cyclone
        https://lunacycle.com/isis-bottom-br...m-for-cyclone/

        Cyclone Double Sprocket Kit for Trikes, Recumbents and Pedicabs
        https://lunacycle.com/parts/cyclone-...-and-pedicabs/

        Thanks!

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          3-4 weeks on the BB is likely, on the double sprocket I am not sure we are restocking it, was not really a big seller.

        I'm looking to invest in a Trek 1120 and I'm interested to know if I can fit a Bafang BBSHD to this particular bike? I've read a bit on this forum and it seems that the BB on this bike is pressed on and I may need an adapter? if so, which adapter? also, which motor kit will I need? BTW, I the BB is a PF92. Looking forward to hearing back from someone.Thank you .
        Rob

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        How do you remove the freewheel that comes on the cyclone 3000?
        Thanks!

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          You will want to email Seb at support for that info, I don't have all the details. I know step one is removing the set screw on the side with an Allen key. Then you do something with the keyway iirc

        Hello,

        We're experiencing power loss with the ASI hub kit. Full setup is attached.

        Our e-bikes are used for deliveries in NYC, so road conditions aren't ideal. We can't always avoid bumps in the road. After installing the ASI to replace a motor from another manufacturer, we noticed that if the front wheel comes off the ground slightly due to high speed, the motor shuts off when the tire makes contact with the ground again. We do not use throttle over bumps or other obstacles, but occasionally we will not see the obstacle in time (or at all), so the throttle will still be engaged and the motor will shut off. Then we must stop and reconnect the battery to reset the motor and get going again.

        1. Is this an intentional feature of the motor?
        2. Is there a safe way to prevent this from happening in the future?

        Thanks! If you need more information please ask.

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        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          What kind of battery are you using?

        • PaulGTF
          PaulGTF commented
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          Wolfpack V1

        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          I don't know about intentional but I have seen this behavior with Mac/ASI combo before. I think they are all like that. You could probably put a switch in line with the power in order to quickly toggle it off/on if that works

        Good morning folks.
        battery: Luna Shark 52v 13.5amp
        So I charged up my battery to full and then went to go use it.
        When I plugged the battery in to the slide mechanism thing the battery just like blew up through the charging port.
        Now just by looking at the charge port it’s quite clear that’s it’s dead. but the battery still reads 58v.

        My my question is where can I get a replacement barrel plug assembly thing?
        (look at picture to see what I need plz)
        it goes from a barely plug to an xt30 connector to the battery pack.
        I have never soldered or messed with electronics in my life. So patience and a help would be greatly appreciated :)
        thanks in advance!

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          I have one of these charge ports I can send you, looks to be the correct version. Feel free to message me or email support attn:gary with your order# and/or address.

          Though the bigger question is why sliding it into the cradle would cause a short at the charging port. That should not be possible. Is there a possibility there might have been some bit of loose metal in the port that touched when moving the battery? Were the discharge contacts on the cradle or the underside of the case damaged in any visible way?

        Originally posted by rahimh5 View Post
        When I plugged the battery in to the slide mechanism thing the battery just like blew up through the charging port.
        That strikes me as a rather disturbing failure - was the charger still plugged in? does the battery still work (power and run the motor under load)?
        Originally posted by rahimh5 View Post
        I have never soldered or messed with electronics in my life. So patience and a help would be greatly appreciated :)
        thanks in advance!
        It looks like you have a Hailong 1 case - we would have to see a picture of the slide to be sure. If so, a new, empty case would be approx. $20-40 dollars (U.S.) via eBay or AliExpress, and it would have the barrel socket and the charge indicator board. I don't recall seeing these piece parts available separately.

        But, BUT, replacing those parts would require soldering, and frankly ebike battery repair is not a job for the inexperienced.
        Last edited by ncrkd; 05-21-2019, 03:37 PM.
        2nd build, 2018 Crust Scapegoat, BBS02 or BBSHD, Rohloff IGH
        3rd build, 2018 Crust Evasion step-thru, BBS02, Shimano Nexus INTER-3 IGH
        4th build, 2016 Salsa Marrakesh flatbar frameset, BBSHD, Alfine 8 IGH
        Other, Electronic throttle lock

        Visit the forum knowledge base

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        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          Yeah, sadly this is true. At the very minimum you'll have to switch the internals out and do a small amount of soldering. There's never a better time to learn than now though. For reference I do have a direct link to a replacement case:

          https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...3edf46b9ecYway

        • ncrkd
          ncrkd commented
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          Maybe s/he can find a local "Elmer" (ham radio talk for someone who provides personal guidance and assistance).

        I was wondering of the Luna Wolf Pack is not enough power for the Ludicrous controller? I read an article recommending a triangle pack with higher continuous AMPS if one opts for the Ludicrous.

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Ludi is fine with wolf. Ideally you want the 30q version.
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