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    thank you for your help!!! Mid drive BBSHD kit ordered!!! I just did not order a battery as I had one already, my son had his e-bike stolen a couple of weeks ago so his spare battery was not stolen and I confiscated it!

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      Hey guys, I'm new to this thread and I'm looking to order a kit on my Domane Al 3 2019. I have a messed up knee and would like the extra boost(Pedal Assist) on my 50-minute commute to work. Would you guys have any suggestions on what kit to purchase? I don't shy away from speed as it's mostly hills and open roads. I would like it to be as quiet as possible. Any suggestions/tips are greatly appreciated before I make a purchase!

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      • ncmired
        ncmired commented
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        68mm threaded, per https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...-al-3/p/23526/ - but I'd verify via paxtana's reference.

        BTW, 68mm is approx. 2 11/16

      • Jaceypenny
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        It's roughly 10-11 mile commute one way. I am able to charge at work. I don't get what's the difference between the Direwolf and Luna? They are both 52v. Sorry for dumb question i'm not really tech-savy. Thanks guys for helping me figure out the Bottom bracket size. I'm getting hyped to order soon!

      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        Ah then you should be fine with Wolf.

        Yes they are both the same voltage. However, the Direwolf has roughly double the capacity as the Wolf. Similarly, the Wolf Pup has roughly half the capacity. More capacity means more range and a larger physical battery, as well as more weight. Generally speaking you want to go with a big battery as it will last more cycles so you will get your money's worth more than a smaller battery (assuming you treat it well and follow the documentation)
        https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...ter-repository

      Hello, I have a wolf pack and need some maintenance questions, 1 is if I fully charge battery and dont end up riding that day how do I discharge the battery properly so its not sitting fully charged and I live in Michigan so getting ready to put the battery to bed for about 4-5 months any suggestions. Thanks in advance

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      • HIGHVOLTAGE
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        Basically you have to use it if you wanna discharge it. I would just charge the battery to 80% and if you plan on riding, charge the last 20% before you go out.

      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        Personally I would just lay the bike on its side or put it on a stand, and if I got a thumb throttle handy (left hand thumb works great doing this) put a rubberband on throttle so it is spinning the motor. You can remove the chain from the motor first so it is a bit safer to leave it like this for an extended period of time.

        Alternately there are a variety of other ways to discharge a battery. Here is a video below. It is not specifically about discharge methods but about using a wattmeter in conjunction with any discharge method. Still, that resistor is a great tool if you need to do this often, and there is also a graphic at the end of the video showing several other common items that can be used to rig up a discharger.


      this might seem like a dumb question but I am curious. Everywhere I look they say you need to have a internally threaded bottom bracket for the BBSHD to work. Why is that is the BBSHD does not thread in to the BB?

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      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        English threaded (BSA) bottom bracket is what is needed because that means it is not just threaded, the diameter is standard BSA diameter. On BBSHD you are correct that the threads on the bottom bracket shell are not important, but 99% of the time if you have a threaded BB it is easily identified as standard BSA.

      • ncmired
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        You don't - it just makes it a bit easier and less expensive. Otherwise, in many (most?) cases an adapter will make things doable. You just need a cylinder the right diameter, to hold the motor with no slop, and close to a standard length.

        Case in point, the ashtabula adapter.
        Last edited by ncmired; 11-06-2019, 02:03 PM.

      Getting ready to pull the trigger on a BBSHD kit. I will be installing on an 11-speed gravel bike. Would like to know if the Luna Eclipse chain ring works with 11-speed chains?

      I read the guide here, but it doesnt seem to say anything about chain compatibility: https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...g-offset-guide

      If the Eclipse is not compatible, hoping folks out there have any suggestions for quality, off-set chain rings that will work!

      (FYI: my BB is 86.5mm, will be ordering BBSHD 100mm kit with PF-41 adapter...)

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      • paxtana
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        Eclipse works with 10spd and lower

      Is the XT90 connector on the Luna Wolf V2 the correct port to connect additional accessories to for drawing power?

      I'd like to power some 12V accessories, such as a loud 12V car horn. My initial plan is to connect a 48V (accepts up to 60V) to 12V step-down to the XT90 and then use that to power the horn and possibly multiple tail/saddle bag lights. Is there a better way to do this? The stepdown listed below draws <10mA under no load, so it shouldn't be a problem with excessive wasted power, but I do plan on inserting a toggle switch to disconnect it when not riding (so I don't have to frequently unplug the XT90)
      https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...sc_act_title_1

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      • eric_ric
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        Commuting in bike lane on a major surface street during rush hour. Stop and go gridlock with lots of side streets and parking lots where cars will creep into the bike lane and then stop -- blocking the entire bike lane (or T-bone a bicycle in the bike lane). Cars only look for a gap in stop/go cars to shoot out into -- they never look at the free flowing bike lane.

        I would have a car horn -- for cars, and a bike bell for bikes/pedestrians (only for courteous/friendly dings). I would only use the car horn for alerting cars that are about to do something illegal/dangerous to me.

        I've already been hit once by a car on a side street that turned across the bike lane (he had a STOP sign). I had slowed down in anticipation of the risky spot and swerved left when the car started to do a right turn across the bike path, but the guy still managed to clip my rear wheel and bend it.
        Last edited by eric_ric; 11-07-2019, 11:00 AM.

      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        Yes you can plug into xt90 for discharge. Both xt90 ports are parallel with eachother.

        Just don't use the xt60 for discharge.

      • pure_mahem
        pure_mahem commented
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        I went with this option the Loud Mini. Yes, it's pricey but it works well. Just giving you options. http://loudbicycle.com/horn/

      Just finished assembling my kit a few days ago. It's great so far. When I initially ordered the kit I didn't understand what I was doing with regards to the chain rings. I accidentally ordered an aluminum adapter and sprocket as well as the eclipse face only.

      The Luna aluminum adapter and chainring works okay, but I think I needed more offset, so I ordered the eclipse 42t chainring. It arrived today and I now realize that I have no way of attaching the face to the chain ring because I don't have the required bolts. I have the ones that mount it to the drive, but not to attach the face to the chain ring.

      Are these something I could find at a hardware store? If so, what should I be looking for size-wise? If not, can I order these separately through Luna?

      Thank you for your help.

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      • paxtana
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        It is a standard Allen bolt. M4 x 10mm.

        You can get them from boltdepot.com and it is fairly likely you can get them from a hardware store as well.

        For bolts the M designates the diameter of the bolt and the length is the threaded section not counting the head. I got a few pics for you here. Try to get one with the same head, most of the time it does not matter with bolts but these sit in a nice recessed portion of the face which is important.


      Hi guys question regarding the X1, prior to purchase I have some questions and concerns that none of the review videos addressed. The battery pack and its location relative to the front tire and water/contamination going into the battery pack location. It seems like the pack connects to the motor terminals at the very bottom... wouldn't this be an issue as water gets sprayed onto the pack/frame by the front tire eventually trickling down to the connectors and shorting it out? Or is the pack sealed into the frame once installed?

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      • HIGHVOLTAGE
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        The X-1 is an Enduro bike for trail riding. I don't think it's designed to be ridden in the rain as a commuter, especially in heavy rain conditions. It should be rated as IP65 water resistant though.

        Most E-bikes don't hold up well in heavy rain conditions anyways since making something as large as a full bicycle IP67 watertight is a very daunting task. Even smartphone manufacturers struggle with it despite phones being smaller.

        Water is one of those funny things that will find it's way through eventually unless it is completely air tight, and even then things get a little complicated when you start dealing with submersion and pressure differences.
        Last edited by HIGHVOLTAGE; 11-08-2019, 12:44 PM.

      Originally posted by ppanda View Post
      Hi guys question regarding the X1, prior to purchase I have some questions and concerns that none of the review videos addressed. The battery pack and its location relative to the front tire and water/contamination going into the battery pack location. It seems like the pack connects to the motor terminals at the very bottom... wouldn't this be an issue as water gets sprayed onto the pack/frame by the front tire eventually trickling down to the connectors and shorting it out? Or is the pack sealed into the frame once installed?

      Thanks my concern was not major rain conditions but splashes during trail riding even in the summer, I suppose the compartment is not IP67 rated but how sealed is it? Would splashes in puddles on that make it's way into the compartment easy? The biggest concern is the battery terminal being located at the bottom rather then the top which makes it so gravity will find its way down and eventually to the connectors had it been on the top at-least gravity would be our friend in most cases. I just wanted to know how sealed it is does it have gaps for water to easily get in? Maybe the product is designed for strict dry conditions which is fine but I was struggling to find any close up shots of battery compartment or its cover in reviews or the website.

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      ​​​​I recently purchsed a cyclone 3000 but cant get the pas to work I get power when I pull the throttle but nothing happens when I turn the crank to get assist.

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      • HIGHVOLTAGE
        HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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        Is there a pedal assist sensor installed? I know it's optional for the Cyclone.

      • Tommycat
        Tommycat commented
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        That, and connecting the PAS Enable Jumper..? (stock controller) HEY, and welcome to the forum! :-)

      I've started getting a quasirandom clicking noise from the pedal axle anytime power is transferred that could be best described as foil wrapper moving around. Low and Fatty Wolf with Ludicrous BBSHD. Ridden hundreds of miles since I bought it. With bike stopped and power off, pressing hard on either pedal results in one click. Letting up on the pedal results in a second click. Sound is coming from the chainring/BBSHD side of axle. Everything looks fine. Chainring is new and bolts are tight. That all points to a component internal to the axle. Been going on for a while although it seemed to go away for a period of time. Just started getting worse. Is there a likely or typical source for this noise? Wondering if you had any ideas.

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      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        I suppose it could be the hub. Also would be good to check for chain stretch. You could take the bike to a shop and get a tuneup and they can check typical things like the derailer

      Where or how do I do the pas jumper?

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      • Tommycat
        Tommycat commented
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        Connect the 2 single black wires going to the black connectors labeled PAS ON/OFF ...




        Lower left in diagram...





        as seen HERE. Click on picture in this link for easier to read size. :-)
        Last edited by Tommycat; 11-09-2019, 05:34 AM.

      Did my motor die?

      When I give it power it makes a little vibration and then turns off. The vibration is noticeable but not noisy. this process takes about 2 seconds. Sometimes I don't get enough time under power and thus movement to get any vibration. Turning it off and then back on after a few seconds let me turn it back on but all I get is the same. If it doesn't have any weight on it and the tire isn't touching the ground, like when it's on my repair stand it works fine. No recent changes made to anything. Bike itself works fine in every other way.
      Motor is a 1500 W mini cyclone. About two years old now. I put a lot of miles on it, (about 8 a day on average) , about 1/8th of those are pulling a 45lb kid and bike trailer. Steep hills around here, but I try not to abuse the bike. I haven't once launched into the air off a jump or even a curb.
      Any advice or solutions or things to even try would be greatly appreciated.

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      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        Seems unlikely the motor itself from the description. I would lean more towards the controller

      • texxs
        texxs commented
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        Thanks, I'll start there.

      Hi all, new to the forum and to ecycles, and I have 2 questions.
      1. Is the wolfpack v2 magnetic mount system strong enough for a xc/downhill bike? I want to make sure it wont go flying off down the side of a mountain as i'm going along...
      2. Is there enough space for the wolfpack v2 on my frame? I included an image, and the mock-up of the battery is a bit bigger than scale, but i'd like to check experienced opinions...
      Thank you so much in advance.

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      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        Looks like it should fit, assuming the mockup was made correctly.

        Yes the magnets are quite strong. There are also multiple steel reinforcement points you can run plastic zipties or even steel cable ties through if you want to reinforce it for downhill.

      • Cafors
        Cafors commented
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        Thank you! I'll go ahead and order everything now :)

      • joost
        joost commented
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        I got some 2 inch Velcro straps off amazon. Airnix is the brand I like.

      I am planning on building my own Ebike and was wondering what is the correct size BBSHD bottom bracket size I should choose? I was thinking of buying a Giant Roam 4 disc 2020 - https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/roam-4-disc-2020. I dont see the measurements on their site for the bottom bracket. I know you folks at Lunacycle built an ebike with the Roam 3, I would assume the frame is pretty much the same on the Roam 4 and the bracket size should be the same. I dont want to purchase the wrong BBSHD and deal with exchanges. Thanks!!

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      • paxtana
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        Probably standard size but you should measure it according to the documentation on the kit listing
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