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I do not know that off the top of my head, sorry. It is for fatbikes (we bought them specifically for the apex) but if you need to know exactly what dropout width I would recommend to email support so we can have the shop take the measurements on your behalf support@lunacycle.com
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When will the bluetooth controller be in stock for the cyclone 3000? And will it help with throttle smoothness and pedal assist. The stock controller is way to aggressive for pedal assist even on low power.
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Not sure, but you can try posting a request here:
Last edited by HIGHVOLTAGE; 11-12-2019, 12:21 PM.
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The Bluetooth controller does offer some additional settings, which can soften up the throttle behavior; but if your primary reason to upgrade is that you're hoping to soften the PAS--I fear you will be disappointed.
Pedal-assist comes on very abruptly with the Bluetooth controller as well, and there's no way to alter that (not that I'm aware of).
I've found instead, I like to use the throttle when starting from a stop, when maneuvering, and when in traffic.
I've got the 4KW Cyclone--but the controllers work the same.
For my system, I went ahead and set up the PAS on/off switch.
Initially, I was non-plussed by the PAS. Because of its "severity" I didn't tend to use it much for a long time. But now, I do find reason to still use PAS sometimes--just yeah. Not in traffic, or when maneuvering in tight places--and never from a dead-stop.
Yet when on the open-road, depending upon my gear-selection, I can use the PAS as a sort-of cruise-control, giving me still more "speed-settings" than I can get with the 3-way switch (which--by the way--has zero effect when in PAS mode). Plus, the PAS runs the motor at a lower RPM--which means it's a little quieter (you can use a higher-gear to get approx the same "cruising speed")...
Perhaps with additional equipment (Cycle Analyst, etc.) more fine-tuning is possible--I really don't know--that's just a guess. I haven't any experience with anything but the Cyclone Bluetooth controller.
But what I can say, is that PAS on the Cyclone isn't ever going to act like PAS on a regular bike. I don't think there's any way to make the Cyclone's PAS reasonable enough to become your primary means of control.
That doesn't mean the Cyclone's PAS function is worthless, but yeah... Just not exactly what most of us might have expected.
I hope that helps... At least--in terms of clarity...
Best of luck!
TklopLast edited by tklop; 11-12-2019, 01:21 PM.
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Hello, I am having an issue with my BBSHD clutch and steel gear. I have noticed that the pedal axle has some left to right slide in it (about .5cm or so). Is this normal? When it is all the way to the right, the clutch teeth engage steel gear normally when I pedal, but when it is to the left the pedals just spin freely. I have already tried replacing the clutch gear once. in doing so, I did notice that my steel gear's teeth were a little worn, but not too bad. Is the left to right slide normal, if not, how can I fix it? If it is normal, is my problem related to my steel gear then?
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Ideally if your clutch goes out you would want to replace the steel gear as well since there's nowhere for the parts from the torn up clutch to go but into that gear. I would probably start there. In answer to your other question, it is not super unusual to see a small amount of lateral play on the spindle, though typically you would not see that much.
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I'm getting Error 07h on new motor from Luna.
I've just recently received and installed a BBSHD motor from lunacycle (order #87323), but after 2 weeks of error free riding I've been getting error 07h. I'm using a 500c display and its set to UBE on the voltage as required for a 52V battery (from EM3EV). The battery is about 2 years old so I'm confused to as why I'm getting an over voltage error. Any pointers? I know from the forum that bafang were shipping some drives with dodgy firmware that affected 52V batteries in this way, but I'd assumed that this would have been flashed at Luna before shipping. I can't find my bafang programming lead to check the firmware so I'm going to just swap out the controller with a spare I bought last time one went wrong for now.
The error occurs under throttle and pedalling, no obvious pattern. I'll also try and swap the display (probably do this first as its the easiest thing to try), but any pointers on diagnosing the problem would be helpful.
Just found my usb programming lead... going to check the controller
RegardsLast edited by briangdd; 11-13-2019, 09:57 AM.
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I recently got the cyclone 3000 and I'm thinking of getting this controller https://lunacycle.com/asi-bac-800-co...r-72v-version/ do I need the 2000w or the 4000w? And is it possible to set up pas and brake shutoff?
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What wattage you need will be dependent on what kind of battery you're using with the kit. It's entirely optional and up to you. If you have a battery that can handle 4000W, by all means go for it but if not, I'd stick with 2000W. PAS and Brake Shut-Off are not compatible with this controller unfortunately.
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I’m following the Sur-Ron assembly video you guys did and the part where you unlock the forks, my bolts simply come undone and the axle is still between the forks and the block of wood. Please advise how I can get this axle out. There are no lock or unlock indicators on the bolts like in the video
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Hi, There are 4 pinch bolts holding the on the axle, loosen these first then remove the end screw . then the axle should be loose, meaning nothing in the fork legs is holding the axle .. So if it's stuck it's in the wood block. If it is stuck then you will have to find something that fits in the axle that you can tap on it (gently) to slide the axle out on the other side... What ever so do dont force it out, dont try to twist it back and forth out.
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I’m following the Sur-Ron assembly video you guys did and the part where you unlock the forks, my bolts simply come undone and the axle is still between the forks and the block of wood. Please advise how I can get this axle out. There are no lock or unlock indicators on the bolts like in the video
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I have the cyclone 3k will this give me noticeable throttle smoothness? https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...-or-so/page220
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You didn't even link to a post bro, it's just a link to an entire page. Nobody knows what you are asking about. See the little hashtag next to the post number? Right click, copy/paste into a reply if you want to reference a specific post.
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I'm guessing you're referring to the ASI controller. Yes it will have smoother throttle response.
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Hello all,
just bought a Luna Banana BBSHD with the Ludicrous motor.
Tried to adjust the kickstand because it was rubbing on the tire and in doing so severed the cable running to the wheel rotation sensor on the rear of the frame.
The display showed a "! 30 H" error, and the motor will no longer run.
i repaired the cable, plugged it back in to the motor and the error persists.
Is there a way to reset this sensor, buy a new one... Reset the controller?
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Ok, I copy all above.
Since I bought the Ludicrous drive package originally, I assume I need the Ludicrous controller?
Sorry for my ignorance in the subject.
What would be the main difference in the stock vs Ludicrous drive, given my current motor? Also, what is the price of the Ludicrous controller by itself?
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You don't necessarily need ludicrous but if you want the same level of torque then yeah that's what you want. Ludi is modded so the controller doubles whatever the current the controller thinks it should be putting out at any given moment. Firmware programming is still set to 30 max but with ludi if you set it to 30 that's actually 60, so we keep it set at 25 (50 actual) for durability. Ludi controllers are 250, stock controllers are 100.
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I went ahead and bought a standard controller, if it doesn't prove to be punchy enough for me I'll give you a shout.
Thanks for all your help!
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Originally posted by Moveasidered View PostHello all,
just bought a Luna Banana BBSHD with the Ludicrous motor.
Tried to adjust the kickstand because it was rubbing on the tire and in doing so severed the cable running to the wheel rotation sensor on the rear of the frame.
The display showed a "! 30 H" error, and the motor will no longer run.
i repaired the cable, plugged it back in to the motor and the error persists.
Is there a way to reset this sensor, buy a new one... Reset the controller?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi guys I have a question regarding the x1 looking to purchase one but recently saw a video on YouTube where someone installed a 40 tooth gear up front and said the assist is limited to 25mph and stops working after that. Is this Infact true? Even for the Ludi version?
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There is nothing on the listing regarding the top speed for this motor from what I can see. It is only a 48v battery so naturally it is going to be limited in top speed as is with the limitation of voltage. This is an Enduro bike that was designed for trail use and not high speed commuting. Once you start going over 25mph on an E-bike like this, things start becoming unreliable and components start failing. Ideally speaking you would want to use a hardtail bike for high speed riding rather than a full suspension.Last edited by HIGHVOLTAGE; 11-15-2019, 07:58 AM.
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