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    Ok Paxtana. My bike is up and running. I do not have brake sensors connected yet as I am swapping to hydraulic in a week or so. I do have a couple of questions. When riding the bike is not terribly happy if I am in the higher two gears (8 total) and I hit the throttle, I think it is jumping teeth. Normal I guess? Just do not hit the throtle, ease in to it? It does not do it anywhere else, or do I need a different sprocket? I am running the eclipse. Question 2, the eclipse 42 tooth sprocket is clearing the chain stay but by like only 1mm. Should I space it out more or is that ok? Or eaven go to the Lekie? Last, is there a way to put a kill switch on the handlebars? Say maybe use the rear brake cut sensor for this?

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    I tried my luna bbhd controller on a bbhd 1000 from bafang usa direct and still get the err 21 . They are still saying that it's the bms in the luna battery. I don't believe this to be true.as i have tried other none Luna battery and they work on luna motor so i believe that they have something in the motor itself that only allows their batteries to work on their motors any fixes for this ?

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    • paxtana
      paxtana commented
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      Error 21 is always a speedo error, I don't know what all you are referring to but that is obvious. You may want to buy from a dealer that actually knows what they are talking about in the future. Batteries do not cause error 21 that is absurd

      Here is info on setup and troubleshooting speedo
      https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...x-speed-sensor

    Thanks for the help yesterday, cleared the dirt off and found the sticker. I'm now trying to remove the casing on the motor to check to see if I have anderson or spade connectors. How do I actually get the casing off though? I see a lot of instruction on installing or breaking down once it's off, but not the other way around. Can it be peeled off while the mounting triangle bracket is still in the way or do I need to remove that, and can that be done without the bottom bracket tool? I'm trying to pry it with the flat headed screwdriver and facing serious resistance from the side near the bracket. I still need to remove it obviously, but if I wanted to order a new motor core and the tool set that would include the bottom bracket tool, is there a way to tell if I have A or B from the serial number? it is 1603011112. Thanks again!

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    • HIGHVOLTAGE
      HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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      You're talking about the controller side to check which connectors it has? This video should help. All you need is an Allen Wrench, no need to pull it off the BB.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgFQ...ture=emb_title

      The motor core is a different story though if you want to replace that. You'll have to take it off the BB for that.

    a couple of other questions. I got the small color display that goes on the side of the handlebars. I found the settings for volts and some other things, however where do I set the wheel size so I know the speed is correct, is the password to get in to the menu to change this stuff 1199? also, for the torque sensor, I mounted it about half way on the spoke, is that fine?
    Last edited by Cavi; 3 weeks ago.

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    • HIGHVOLTAGE
      HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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      Should be either 1919 or 1199 and should be there. Which display do you have specifically?

      For the sensor, that is a speed sensor and not a torque but yes, half way is fine :)

    November 18, 2019. I like that you have a listing of what's in stock, but it isn't current. What models are in stock now and are expected soon? I am buying a bike and really want to consider yours. I'm not looking for the sur Ron, but a fat/MTB with lots of low end torque and good PAS programming and a good full throttle control. Not speed, but torque. Thanks, Richard

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    • HIGHVOLTAGE
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      Bikes are sold to us at a discount in bulk & are usually last years model from leftover stock. For this reason, we have absolutely no way predicting which bikes will be back or what bikes we'll be getting in the future. We'll be happy to accept whatever we can get :) So it's more of a first come, first serve type deal but it means there will always be more and more options introduced, just gotta make sure to follow our social media & snatch them up when they are announced.

    • pure_mahem
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      Im not going to tell you that you can save money doing it. But what inspired me to build my bike was the Black Friday Special Luna had advertised years ago and the size bike I wanted wasnt available. I found a Motobecane Boris bike with similar specs from bikes direct. Bought a BBSHD kit, a 30T mighty mini, and chose a 52v 30q Wolfpack battery. I opted to have the offroad programing and a left thumb throttle. I am a heavy guy going right around 400 lbs. So I opted for a bike with front and rear thru axles and wanted a bike with hydraulic disc brakes.

      I will say the safety features of brake cut offs and gear shift sensors are great ideas for safety and preventing damage to your drive train. But "I" dont find them necessary. I do have the gear sensor but just never shift under load and its not an issue. Be in low gear before you start climbing the hill. Make sure you bike is off before mounting and dismounting your bike and the brake sensors same. I cover my brakes all the time so im prepared to stop and the hydraulic brakes are enough to over come the motor and stop the bike. I do think the cutoffs would be nice but not a necessity. Judge that for yourself and you degree of risk and safety you want.

      The only issue I ran into for my install was I needed to have some custom spacers made and add a torque arm to the motor mount and use that instead of the motor mount that comes with the kit. But it was pretty easy to install. On the up side you also really get to know your bike so if you have a mechanical issue in the future. Honestly after building my bike the only thing I would change if I could is I would of gotten bigger batteries like the Dire Wolfpacks. But they werent even around when I built my bike. I have 2 wolfpacks and a conservative range estimate is 15 miles per a battery. Note that I live in Hill Country so no matter which way I go I'm looking at climbing significant hills. It that uphill to school both ways situation, ya well if you live where I do that's a real thing. Also I weigh 400 lbs. I have a front basket that my dog rides in. I have a rear rack that holds items. I carry 4 liters of water on my bike...and most often I pull a trailer that carries about 90+lbs. When I go up hill pulling the trailer I am in my lowest gear that equates to about 8 mph but I'm not walking. On the flats Im usually just under 20 mph but I have gotten up to 23 mph. Also realize this is throttle only almost all the time.

      I do use the PAS it's just the opportunities to actual use it where I am are limited. If your going up a hill there is no way you are going to keep cadence so it's throttle only and in all reality flat terrain is a scarce thing in my area. That may not be the case for you as I see you are from Florida. But at any rate the numbers I gave are real and like I said conservative. I easily could go another couple miles per a battery and if there was no hills Im guessing i could get maybe 20 miles per a battery at least. I will say I had to replace my saddle and I can only ride for about 2 hours max before I get really sore. If you haven't been on a bike in a while I would recommend only riding short rides of no more than half an hour for the first few rides and then gradually increase your rides or you can get really sore and it will put a hitch in your giddy up. For my 4th ride I went to the next town about 15 miles to do my grocery shopping. It took me an hour one way. The ride there was ok. The ride back the last few miles I was feeling it and I continued to feel it for the next week or so and it kept me off the bike for another 2 weeks. It was my own fault for trying to do to much to soon and not working up to it.

      Tips for Fat bikes in general. Tubeless is freaking fantastic to prevent flats. If you are riding on pavement inflate your tires to max psi this will eliminate the self steer people talk about in tire reviews. Don't Ever Forget You are on a FAT BIKE and how Awesome It Is! When I ride I have a permanent Smile and Giggle like a Giddy School Girl.

      Sorry for the book as you can tell when I try to help I tend to just go on and on. But I hope this might help you out and give you options to get on the bike you want.

    I have the 500c display

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    My 13.5ah Luna battery died on me at the end of a long hard ride, while ascending a long climb. When I got home and cooled it down, it read 43.9v on the Luna Charger. Is it normal for the battery to provide no power at this voltage? I have about 475 miles of riding on the battery so far. I live at the top of a long climb, near Mulholland, so there's always a hard climb at the end of every ride. I'm usually able to keep enough juice to make it home, but not today. Thanks!

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    • paxtana
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      That is normal. The lower the voltage the more you will see voltage sag, especially with a high load like that. Sounds like what happened was you started pulling a decent bit of current from it which caused voltage to sag below low voltage cutoff. Resting voltage is going to be higher than the sagged voltage so over time the voltage bounced back up a bit.

    • bikeangeles
      bikeangeles commented
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      Followup? Would charging back to 100% be useful when I experience a cutoff like this? I just go back to 80% as I normally do?

    • paxtana
      paxtana commented
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      Depends on the kind of battery. For a Wolf there would be no benefit since they do not go out of balance (as it turns out, cells going out of balance is more an engineering issue than an unavoidable fact of life as was once assumed), for other batteries it might make some marginal different if you think pushing the pack caused it to go a bit out of balance. Personally I would put it at 80% for the charge when you get home so it is stored at 80%, then switch to 100% right before going on that long ride, since it sounds like you could use the extra range

    on a bike with a bbshd if I were to run a pup pack running pedal assist 1 or 2 and only really using the throttle in case of a steeper hill do you think it would be enough for like a 8 mile dirt ride? or a 8 mile paved trail?

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    • HIGHVOLTAGE
      HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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      That's almost impossible to answer unfortunately. Every trail is different and every rider has a different riding style. It mostly depends how much acceleration you do and what kind of inclines are you climbing and how long they are. It is just different for every rider which is why we only give a general rating rather than a specific.

    What BMS is used in Luna's 72v packs?

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    • HIGHVOLTAGE
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      Model or the specs? The models are not available publicly right now but the specs should be listed on each 72v battery page.

    I just had a quick question about the direwolf battery power connectors before I purchase. Right now on my fat bike I run a dolphin battery and I will need to change the power supply chord to the controller. I did some of my own research I just would feel more confident with a second opinion. Is it simply as just cutting the cord and connecting the xt90 connectors? I want to make sure I have everything in need in one order.

    Anything would be helpful thank you!!

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    • HIGHVOLTAGE
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      Well, it requires a bit of soldering.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91r5Qk-pKB8

      If you don't feel comfortable doing this, a hobby shop that sells drones or R/C's can often provide it as a service for like 10 bucks. Maybe even some local electrical hardware stores would too. I would call around.

    Thank you so much I have a friend with some electrician skills , I'll show him this video. Appreciate the quick reply you rock!

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      Can you give me a link to documentation for the Luna mighty mini display. I installed one on my handlebars and it won't turn on. Hold right side button for 2 seconds correct? Does the thing need a battery? There is no obvious place to charge and/or put in a battery.

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      • paxtana
        paxtana commented
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        It runs off of the bike battery. Here is a video with documentation



      • HIGHVOLTAGE
        HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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        Well, if the battery is plugged into the E-bike, it should turn on. The 500C display walkthrough can be found here:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9tU8sq5i4c

        Maybe hold it longer for 2 seconds? Just keeping holding it and see if it turns on and make sure there's power coming from the battery on the bike.

        Also, if you installed this, did you use a previous display? Does that display still work? Cause if not, you may need to look into other avenues as to why it's not turning on.

      Got it working. Thanks for the info.

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        Hello,

        I have two Surly Pugsley's with BBSHD and Phase Runner controllers so I can run high power batteries I run 18s RCLIPOS and Im getting awesome Power and decent range. I have a LUNA WOLF v2 52 volt pack when i change to battery a set up as 14s 52 volt at 10AH I am only getting 14.66 AMPS out and barely 700 watts Im not sure if the battery is the issue but I am getting a full 58v when charged so It seems fine. I was able to pull a lot more amps up to 28-30 previously my setup is 96amps 3500 watts on Cycle analst and PR and as I mentioned when I cahnge to 66v (18s) Im getting 40amps out so Im confused any insight would help I am interested in buying 2 of your 72 triangle batts the 17.5 AH one but they are out of stock will you have soon and will I experience this too. Is it your BMS limiting the amps? Thanks Charles

        BTW I posted previously on the needing the size of the spring clip for the nylon gear it is 18MM for anyone that is in need or breaks it like I did.

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        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          Okay, so wait, what is the 10ah pack you're referring to and how old is it? Or are you referring to the Luna Wolf? Either way, is this a newer pack or is this a pack that has some age on it?

          Have you ruled out this being an issue with the phase runner controller too? It might not be programmed correctly.

        I ordered the X1 with Ludicris controller. How do I know when it’s in Ludicris mode?

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        • paxtana
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          Ludi is a hardware modification. It is always in ludi mode
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