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    Originally posted by Norm Lane View Post
    What's the easiest way to tie the front brake levers together on a tadpole? I want each lever to operate both wheels. I put a splitter on the right side which controls both wheels but find I want the left side lever to do the same thing.
    I have 2 tadpoles. The best way to set up the brakes is have one lever operate the front wheels and the other the rear. The rear can be a parking brake if it has a lock built in.



    For hydraulics you will need a T fitting.

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      I don't see much reason for a rear brake. Both front levers have lock buttons on them. I found it awkward to have to use my right hand instead of my left the other day. I had something in my right hand and ended up running into something. I just switched from a delta trike that had the front/rear setup you mention and it made sense there but it meant normally I could brake with either hand unless I was hauling ass.
      Although, now that you mention it, it might be worthwhile having a drag brake in the rear for long down hills.

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        Have Low and Fatty Wolf BBSHD with 500c display. Unplugged the connectors a few inches down from the 500c to plug in my programming cable, didn't work, unplugged it to discover one of the five pins on the green connector bike side (not display side) was bent. Started bending it back with a tiny screwdriver, spark came out, realized I needed to unplug the battery, did that, finished bending pin back, plugged back in to 500c display, plugged battery back in, bike won't turn on.

        I'm overwhelmed looking through the Luna documentation on this one, recall having trouble finding 500c documentation (I seem to have a memory of not finding it at all), and I'm really trying to streamline the resolution process in the hopes I can get it working again for my next trip in a week or so.

        --Would the spark (tiny screwdriver making contact between two wires connected to motor/battery) have blown a fuse or similar somewhere? If so, where can I find this fuse to replace it?

        --If it seems evident that the wire harness which contains the pin that was bent needs replaced (this is comprised of a single wire from the big connector down towards the motor that splits into four wires, two of which have yellow plugs and two of which have green plugs), can I get a Luna part number or link for said harness so I can attempt to rush order it?

        I did plug the battery in to the charger after the spark to make sure I didn't trigger the BMS and the battery charges fine and is at the correct voltage so I think I can rule out something with the battery.

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        • Squeamish
          Squeamish commented
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          Ordered replacement harness and controller. Thanks again for the quick replies - it raises the odds that the bike will be running again in time for my trip leaving in ~10 days.

          Is ohming out the same thing as what Paxtana commented on above, holding down the power button with harnesses connected but battery off? If not, how do I accomplish ohming out?

        • pure_mahem
          pure_mahem commented
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          I believe for a Ludicrous Controller you have to contact Luna Cycle Directly with your original order number as they dont sell it as a stand alone product. At least that has been the case in the past that I have seen.

        • Tommycat
          Tommycat commented
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          Ohming is the same as checking resistance for checking the integrity of the wires. As your getting a new harness this point is some what mute. But still could be good practice.
          Not to speak for Pax, but his point was that you can quickly discharge the controller's capacitors by unplugging the battery, then turn on the display….

        I'm trying to install brake sensor and all the video shows that display will indicate with (!) Symbol. But I'm not seeing in dpc18 display. How to get that or why I'm not seeing it?

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        • Rajesh
          Rajesh commented
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          Yes. all other things works.

        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          I would ask how do you know for sure they are disabling the motor when applied. Manually apply the magnet and then remove it with your hand to see if the indicator shows up.

        • pure_mahem
          pure_mahem commented
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          I have that same display. I never had an indicator on it. When I hooked up the sensors they disabled my motor there was no indicator on the screen of it.

          My issue was a bit different after that. I couldn't get the sensors to deactivate. in other words with the sensors plugged in and even the magnets sitting right in front of the sensor my motor was still shutdown. I unplugged the sensors and tried the same one at a time. Still couldn't get them to work.

          My work around was not using them. My Hydraulic brakes are strong enough to stop the motor even if it is powered. However, if anyone chooses to follow my route they do so at their own risk.

          Also key to note if you dont use sensors: Turn your bike OFF every time you mount or dismount it. That seems like a duh thing. But trust me sometimes you forget and you really do not want to bump the throttle when your not holding the brake, lol. I wont say how I know this, lol

        I literally just had a melt down and not a hundred percent sure why. Out riding for about and hour before I noticed an electrical burning smell. I stopped to check it out and noticed that my connecting cables to the X Controller had burned through the housing of the controller itself.

        was able to get back to the truck and home, but definitely not stoked seem as how it’s a new controller.

        Why and how did this happen and what can I do to prevent this from happening?

        I have contacted Luna Cycle to see what my options are, but if I could save $450 and two weeks of down time that’d be awesome.

        Cheers
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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Looks like something to do with resistance or conductivity.

          In the case of electrical resistance the power would bottleneck causing heat. Possibly from those lugs being only loosely connected to the wires.

          If conductivity this could be from something like saltwater, given you are on an island looks to be possible. Salt buildup increase conductivity between those two wires, if it builds up too much the electricity will follow that path the salt has created effectively shorting it out. If you were in contact with salt use dielectric grease when replacing parts to cut down on likelihood of this happening in the future. https://www.electricbike.com/water-p...uble-shooting/

          Another less likely possibility would be if the wires going to that controller were damaged, or that black separator between each terminal were damaged, in such a way that these wires could potentially intermittently touch.

        • pure_mahem
          pure_mahem commented
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          Important to Note that you Do NOT put dielectric grease on the contact surfaces. But around the connection after after everything is connected.

        Luna X-1 Enduro questions:

        * Does it come with a charger? I couldn’t find that in the product description online, though I seem to recall a video somewhere mentioning that it has a simple 3-ish Amp Charger.

        * What charging connector will I need if I use a Cycle Satiator as my primary charger? Is it a standard barrel plug?

        Thanks!

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Yes it comes with a charger. Yes it is standard barrel. We sell barrels in connector section if you wanted to use one to wire up a satiator.

        Hi guys last night I got a email for a Medium availability for the X1 and clicked the link and didn't see it available. Instead of constantly waiting for emails can I just put a deposit I have the funds and when the medium comes you can allocate one for me? I don't need it immediately but at the same time I dont want to keep the funds on the card waiting and hoping, thanks.

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        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          This thread is for troubleshooting. However we can't take your funds ahead of time as it wouldn't be fair to the other customers who are waiting to purchase one also.

        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Sorry for the misunderstanding, the email was automatically sent as we are prepping it for sale, happens sometimes. We can manually notify you once it is ready if it helps?

        Hello - I purchased an ebike kit from y'all and now my battery won't charge pat 72% unless I press in a specific part of the battery

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        When I ask this, I know the Irony of doing this. But the reason would be BUREAUCRACY thats why. This would be legal. The alternative would be illegal here, significantly more expensive, and much more burdensome to be mobile... so that is why.

        Is there any reason I can not use a Predator 2000 watt Super Quiet Inverter Generator from Harbor Freight to charge my 52v 30Q 12.5ah Wolfpack Batteries using a Luna 300w Advanced Charger? Would I be able to charge both batteries at once if I used 2 chargers?
        2018 Motobecane Boris Fat Bike BBSHD Build

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Hypothetically yeah. Seems like in my experience when you chain together inverters with chargers it can be less than ideal. Maybe due to the waveform not being the same when it enters the charger compared to a more standard sinewave you would get from an outlet?

          But there are other possible reasons for the few reports I have seen where someone runs into an issue in the few times I have seen the attempt, not least of which could be incompetence which probably does not apply to you. Also I only really hear from folks when an issue comes up rather than when it works without problem so for all I know this usually works fine, hard to say.

          But yes if you got two chargers pulling 600w combined you should have no problem if the generator is proving peak of 2000w.

        my sur ron seemed to work out of the box. I started to make improvements before i take it outside as there is snow at the moment. Relaced wheels, tires ect. In the process i removed brake kill switch sensors. At that point bike was still working. I had to remove kickstand to fit wider tire n left the stand s switch in place. I removed the battery to have access to rear light n flasher wires. Was no plug so i just cut em. Put battery back in. Flip back main switch... Led displays work but motor does nt do anything.

        I checked de lil fuse but its good. Changed in case but makes no difference.

        Thanks for your time

        Simon
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        Perfect e-bike for many people

        I was looking at the Luna Cycle Apollo and it is almost the perfect bike for me. I use my (2000 W BBSHD) ebike as a commuter and really need a rear rack with panniers to cary all my stuff. It's also nice to be able to haul stuff when going to the grocery store. I also only ride on the road so the rear suspension really isn't necessary. Are there any plans to make a bike like the apollo, except with a hardtail so it can cary more stuff?

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        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          Don't think so but who knows? Eric often keeps those ideas to himself until he's ready to put them into action.

        My BB shell is 68mm wide with a diameter of 51.5mm. The openings have no threads. Will any of your mid drive motors fit?

        Thanks. - Joe

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        BBS02 making "whirring" sound: Yesterday my motor started to make a noticeable whirring sound. It has about 2000 miles on it. My guess is it needs lubricant. Is this a dire situation and should I immediately stop riding? Or can it wait until I have a free weekend to work on it? I was hoping to do maintenance in February. Thanks.

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          Depends. Worst case scenario it breaks. I have not heard it so I can't really say how concerned I would be about it..

        Originally posted by gerryscat View Post
        BBS02 making "whirring" sound: Yesterday my motor started to make a noticeable whirring sound. It has about 2000 miles on it. My guess is it needs lubricant. Is this a dire situation and should I immediately stop riding? Or can it wait until I have a free weekend to work on it? I was hoping to do maintenance in February. Thanks.
        A "noticable whirring sound" that wasn't there yesterday. Should be enough information. Anyway, found the fix here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lVRTRFueUU

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        • paxtana
          paxtana commented
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          I mean, not really..You might get "whirring" from other things as well like a failing clutch, dirt contamination on the secondary gear, or even just something rubbing against the chainring like you might experience if the cover was a bit loose.

          I recall earlier in the year one of our forum members kept hearing a ticking..turned out it was nothing mechanical at all and he had just left the protective sticker on the controller, which started to peel off and was contacting moving parts. Stuff like that can happen, and a single word description of "whirring" is not enough to rule out that sort of thing.

        I live in the UK and bought a BBSHD controller from Luna recently,after fitting it the bike is now down on power by 3 to 400 watts on each power level and seems to max out at 950w on level 9 compared to my other BBSHD bike that maxes out at 1500w .Both controllers are programmed exactly the same .As well as this the green battery icon in the top right hand corner of the screen is showing depletion at nearly a full 52v battery and it has never done that before unless it is nearly empty.
        Last edited by nemesis; 12-13-2019, 09:08 AM.

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        • HIGHVOLTAGE
          HIGHVOLTAGE commented
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          This is just the original controller, correct? Not the Ludicrous version? Were both controllers tested under the same battery power level too? Check your display settings to make sure no speed limits are set either.

          And when you said they are programmed the same, you checked each one with a programming cable using the flashing software on a PC and you've verified that the amps for both of them are set to 30? And to be clear, this happens under both PAS and throttle only modes, yes? Or does it only happen in PAS 1-9?
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