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  • trailpoacher
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    evermore
    https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...late-abundance
    https://lunacycle.com/name-plate-for...d-wire-surron/

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  • evermore
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    Originally posted by sc-surfer View Post
    This just arrived. I suggest using the information on the small metal placard Luna sells. I sent in a photo of it with my statement of facts. The placard does not say Sur Ron anywhere. Make and model are completely different. In the statement of facts I stated the info from the placard and also listed the power source as electric and human powered. Done and done.

    Best of all worlds. No renewal fees, no insurance required, no pedals required, ride almost anywhere (except bike paths. Bike lanes ok.) And best of all...if I take it off, I'm a class 2 eBike. Gonna make a quick release mount of some kind. Plate on....ride to trails...take plate off...ride trails...plate back on...ride home.

    Hi, I just received my Sur Ron X and assembled yesterday. Can you elaborate on "small metal placard Luna sells" ? Could you post whatever it says on that (I assume I can just substitute my frame and engine numbers). It does seem safer to try to get it registered as a Luna than a Sur Ron.. thanks!

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  • evermore
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    Originally posted by JohnKol View Post
    Got my CA moped license plate yesterday, precisely one month after I mailed my application to the DMV Special Processing Unit.

    The only things needed are REG 230, "Motorized Bicycle Application", and a check for $24; you do not need to send Statement of Facts, or any other documentation or photographs. As mentioned before, you need to get the metal placard from Sur Ron and copy that information to the relevant sections in the application.

    For those of you that have received the license plate, how and where did you install it on the Sur Ron? The plate is wider than the rear of the bike so it will rip off at the first crash, and I can't find a good place to install it vertically.
    Hi, can you elaborate on this "metal placard"? SC-Surfer mentioned it too but he said his came from Luna? How do get one and will the information match the frame and engine number I received? Thanks!

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  • evermore
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    Hi, I just received my Sur Ron X and assembled yesterday. Can you elaborate on "small metal placard Luna sells" ? Could you post whatever it says on that (I assume I can just substitute my frame and engine numbers). It does seem safer to try to get it registered as a Luna than a Sur Ron.. thanks!

  • trailpoacher
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    Here are the aforementioned photos. Bonus points if you paint the backside of the plate black!

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  • trailpoacher
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    Originally posted by JohnKol View Post
    For those of you that have received the license plate, how and where did you install it on the Sur Ron? The plate is wider than the rear of the bike so it will rip off at the first crash, and I can't find a good place to install it vertically.
    I made a mount that bolts onto the side of the swingarm where the chain guard bolts on, and used a spring hinge so that it can fold out of the way while poachin'. I'll post some pics tomorrow!

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  • JohnKol
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    Got my CA moped license plate yesterday, precisely one month after I mailed my application to the DMV Special Processing Unit.

    The only things needed are REG 230, "Motorized Bicycle Application", and a check for $24; you do not need to send Statement of Facts, or any other documentation or photographs. As mentioned before, you need to get the metal placard from Sur Ron and copy that information to the relevant sections in the application.

    For those of you that have received the license plate, how and where did you install it on the Sur Ron? The plate is wider than the rear of the bike so it will rip off at the first crash, and I can't find a good place to install it vertically.

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  • carter
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    Originally posted by sc-surfer View Post
    This just arrived. I suggest using the information on the small metal placard Luna sells. I sent in a photo of it with my statement of facts. The placard does not say Sur Ron anywhere. Make and model are completely different. In the statement of facts I stated the info from the placard and also listed the power source as electric and human powered. Done and done.

    Best of all worlds. No renewal fees, no insurance required, no pedals required, ride almost anywhere (except bike paths. Bike lanes ok.) And best of all...if I take it off, I'm a class 2 eBike. Gonna make a quick release mount of some kind. Plate on....ride to trails...take plate off...ride trails...plate back on...ride home.
    This is clutch info. Thanks.

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  • sc-surfer
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    This just arrived. I suggest using the information on the small metal placard Luna sells. I sent in a photo of it with my statement of facts. The placard does not say Sur Ron anywhere. Make and model are completely different. In the statement of facts I stated the info from the placard and also listed the power source as electric and human powered. Done and done.

    Best of all worlds. No renewal fees, no insurance required, no pedals required, ride almost anywhere (except bike paths. Bike lanes ok.) And best of all...if I take it off, I'm a class 2 eBike. Gonna make a quick release mount of some kind. Plate on....ride to trails...take plate off...ride trails...plate back on...ride home.
    Last edited by sc-surfer; 01-18-2021, 04:08 PM.

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  • reno464
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    I live in Sacramento CA and got my moped plates no problem. Put down all the information and sent my money in to DMV and pow six weeks later I got a plate....Granted, I was a first round buyer and got mine in 2018 when it was lower power and it was advertized as 1hp in ECO mode. Maybe that is the differance between you all and the many first gen SurRon owners that have been successful plating their rides.

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  • jcubz
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    Oof, I use to live in San Mateo county for a bit, and those cops definitely have sticks up their ass, especially around hillsdale. I drove a black, kind of ghetto looking lexus, and would get pulled over for the stupidest stuff.
    But still if it's only one mile, I think your best bet is a pedal kit and wearing a basic open face bicycle helmet. They will judge you on looks, so wearing something that makes you look more docile is in your best bet. I can't imagine you getting more than a warning the first time. Because despite being pulled over 4 times in 16 months, I never actually got a ticket, only verbal warnings. Probably once they realized I'm just another upper-middle class techie, those prejudice pigs stopped caring. Sometimes it's easier to just ask for forgiveness than permission.

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  • markstertt
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    I'm in San Mateo county, SF bay are and I was also denied a plate about one month ago for same reasons as others have stated...too bad, I wanted to use the bike to run 1 mile round trip to grocery store.

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  • Pharmboy
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    I’m in Costa Mesa , Orange County, and was hoping to to get CA plates. Wonder if others have had better luck.

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  • ThunderGatti
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    Many states are making it hard or impossible to register vehicles assembled by companies who don't go through the same crash testing and other formal and costly safety standards that a major manufacturer would. I looked into this stuff back when I was trying to buy an Ariel Atom., which is also impossible in some places to register. The one other loop hole that I came across in a few states related to this is if the vehicle is built by the individual owner.

    If you go the dirt legal route, just keep in mind that it's not a 100% bullet proof solution. People have been doing the out of state registration thing since the 80's. It's historically been exotic car owners who live in states that make you pay property tax on cars, in addition to registration fees. If you're going to be driving on the same local route every day and the same cop spots you more than once, it may end up attracting attention.

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  • jcubz
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    Where do you live Pharmboy?
    I got the pedals for this reason, and I know the bay area cops won't really care.

    Also i contacted dirt legal myself too and here was there reponse

    Currently, we can make your Sur Ron street legal with an out of state tag which will be registered with your home address and renewable online each year. The cost is $399 with our Luna Cycle discount which is listed below.

    Since the vehicle only comes with a bill of sale, we will have to register it in Vermont. You may or may not be able to transfer it to your state but you can renew the plate online each year.

    The process is as simple as these steps:

    1. Place order online here. (Use Promo Code "Sur Ron")
    2. Fill out vehicle info on the form that comes up after purchasing.
    3. Wait for paperwork to arrive via mail. (2-3 days)
    4. Sign/notarize forms and send them back with your vehicle documents and photo ID.
    5. Wait 2-3 weeks for your license plate to arrive in the mail.
    6. Enjoy your ride.
    7. Renew the license plate yearly here.
    You could also likely save a little money and register it with Vermont yourself. Although I do think just by dirtlegal providing this information they deserve some compensation.

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