Ca Moped License Denied

[Pharmboy]

Well this sucks. I was going to try to get mine registered as a moped, so I can ride it 6 miles to work and back.

[ThunderGatti]

LE was defunded where I live, which had an unexpected benefit - they’re not issuing tickets to negatively impact revenue. They’ve also been told no arrests or proactive policing unless a crime is reported or request for help comes in. Ask around where you live...it might not even matter.

[jcubz]

Brights23 , what did dirt legal say and whats the process and cost if you don't mind?

[X-Nitro]

I see a stock Sur Ron dynos at 6.9HP on Youtube.

The motor shows less than that on an accurate dyno.
I didn't expect any legit road operation when I got mine, but I installed dot tires, signals & mirror anyway.

[Brights23]

It would be nice if you removed " a 5 minute modification will take all limits off the bike to make it power and speed unlimited and illegal for road use in most states." from your Suron Sales page.
At least then we could print something out showing that the bike is shipped factory limited without them also seeing what everybody buying these bikes already knows.

[Brights23]

I have talked to dirt legal. I understand their process.

I was actually planning to write back the DMV expressing that the bike is factory locked at 750 Watt 20 MPH and having them give me a letter that it can't be registered as a moped because it's Class 2 E-Bike. At least I could carry around the letter in my tank bag.

Obviously California knows the potential of the bike by looking it up online. Probably would have been better to advertise/spec it at Moped levels from Manufacture / Dealer and then let word of mouth spread of it's unlocking potential. At least the clerk googling it would find Moped level specs

My honest opinion is that California is fking this up and missing a chance on a revenue stream and cleaning it's @#$%^ air!

The 30MPH top speed thing is bullshit. That's the cop's job to bust people doing more than 30MPH. We sell cars that do 200+ and that doesn't make them illegal to drive on the street. Also, a bike with a 60lb rider is going to have a different top speed than a 240 lb rider. Change tires, gears, low charge battery and the whole 30 MPH is bullshit. I have a 64 tooth and I'm hitting about 32-33 GPS

The 4HP max needs to be looked at differently than it's ICE counterpart. Cost-effective electric bikes should be getting substantial incentive to be on the roads in California right now. California should give some leeway here (think electric cars in carpool lanes). Also, I can feel a power difference from 100 percent charge to 50 percent. People commuting on these bikes are aware that if they run full throttle constantly, the battery is going to deplete faster. They tend to use less HP on average to conserve battery life. You can make the argument that a gas bike rider would do the same but I can tell you that in 30+ years of riding gas, conserving gas was never something I thought about. Riding a bike was conserving gas! I see a stock Sur Ron dynos at 6.9HP on Youtube. Yur gonna kill the F@#$% planet over 2.9 HP that the bike has on it's best day at it's max charge?

Why ask "under penalty of perjury" questions on the MOPED application about the bike's performance if you're not going to accept the answers? Let the law in the field do their job!

I have DOT tires, All required lights, a Class M DL, DOT helmet, Insurance and willing to pay a reg fee. I also charge from the solar off my roof.

But the loud as fuck hopped up moped from 82' blowing black soot is good to go!

[paxtana]

Have you tried going through dirtlegal

[Brights23]

Got a letter about a week ago from the Ca DMV denying my Moped application. They stated that the bike is more than 4HP and faster than 30 MPH. Thoughts?