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    Assistance with removing brake sensors

    Hey everyone. I just received my Sur-Ron X Black Edition and am in the process of removing the brake sensors.

    I understand that you can now program the X controller to keep it from cutting off when applying brakes, but I like the look without all of the cables up front so I removed them. I still have the kickstand sensor as a back up for programming.

    Here's my plan/question... I'd really like to keep an easy way to program the controller so I am reaching out to you guys to see if this would work. For the 2 wire "hall" sensor, is this just an "on/off" switch without a resistor? Can I just cut the sensor off, and solder in a push button that can remain in the battery compartment?

    My multimeter died so I don't have anything handy to check resistance.


    Here's the sensor in question:


    The plug marked "F" is the front brake plug. Basically I want to plug in the existing sensor harness (with a push button soldered in place of the hall sensor) and leave the entire thing underneath the ignition.
    Last edited by Ten8DoWork; 12-13-2020, 06:47 PM.
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    Should work just fine.

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      #3
      Originally posted by sc-surfer View Post
      Should work just fine.
      Thank you. I'll report back when the installation is complete. I'm on the hunt for the perfect water resistant/waterproof push button switch.

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        #4
        This would work nicely...

        https://smile.amazon.com

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        #5
        Originally posted by Ten8DoWork View Post
        in the process of removing the brake sensors.
        you can now program the X controller to keep it from cutting off when applying brakes,
        but I like the look without all of the cables up front so I removed them.
        I still have the kickstand sensor as a back up for programming.

        Here's my plan/question... I'd really like to keep an easy way to program the controller so I am reaching out to you guys to see if this would work.
        By-passing the brake sensors.
        Started by dirtman, 1 week ago
        While bypassing the brake sensors, I also wanted to remove as much wiring as possible.
        But.. Someday I might like to use this bike to connect trails and pretend t be as Street-legal as possible.
        If I cut or remove the brake Sensor wiring. I will have to find another way to turn on a rear brake light.

        Therefore I am still in the process of learning how to program every aspect of the controller.
        Luna/Surron has a video on the controller programing.

        Thank you sc-surfer.
        I had a pair of wire snippers in my hand, As I was ready to snip Something told me to check this site.

        This is part 1 of programing the X-controller.
        ""There is a video"",,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvw1W9WFdR0







        Last edited by dirtman; 12-14-2020, 10:05 PM.

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          #6
          Originally posted by dirtman View Post
          By-passing the brake sensors.
          Started by dirtman, 1 week ago
          While bypassing the brake sensors, I also wanted to remove as much wiring as possible.
          But.. Someday I might like to use this bike to connect trails and pretend t be as Street-legal as possible.
          If I cut or remove the brake Sensor wiring. I will have to find another way to turn on a rear brake light.

          Therefore I am still in the process of learning how to program every aspect of the controller.
          Luna/Surron has a video on the controller programing.

          Thank you sc-surfer.
          I had a pair of wire snippers in my hand, As I was ready to snip Something told me to check this site.

          This is part 1 of programing the X-controller.
          ""There is a video"",,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvw1W9WFdR0






          Thanks, I programmed out the brake sensors and disabled regen prior to the removal, but still wanted to clean up the the cable routing and still have a way to program the bike since the kickstand method is kind of a pain in the butt.

          I'm not worried about being street legal and needing brake lights so no issue there. I actually removed the taillight and am adding a blackout switch for the headlight.
          Last edited by Ten8DoWork; 12-15-2020, 06:02 AM.

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          • dirtman
            #6.1
            dirtman commented
            12-15-2020, 03:44 PM
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            10-8.""I'm not worried about being street legal and needing brake lights so no issue there.""

            Its a Police issue.. Numerous motorist complaints about obnoxious MX-riders.
            I/we act civilized and legal the Police won`t bother me/us crossing the highway intersection.
          #7
          Originally posted by dirtman View Post
          [TABLE]
          [This is part 1 of programing the X-controller.
          ""There is a video"",,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvw1W9WFdR0
          I posted that link, late last night.
          I was intending to watch it today. While taking notes.
          My mistake. There is nothing in the video about disabling the brake sensors.

          Question... Where can I find information or a video of by-passing the Brake sensors.??
          It was one year ago yesterday that I received my Surrron light bee from Luna Cycle..
          No instructions of programing the Controller.






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          • sc-surfer
            #7.1
            sc-surfer commented
            12-15-2020, 03:54 PM
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            Here ya go...

            Turn key off. Then turn on. After squeezing the brakes (or kickstand or whatever), turn key off and back on.

            X Controler Programing

            Level 1 regenerative coasting = 2 short brake pull, 1 long
            Level 2 regenerative coasting = 3 short brake pull, 1 long
            Level 3 regenerative coasting = 4 short brake pull, 1 long
            Turning off the regenerative coasting = 7 short brake lever pull (and I *think* one long...List I got was incomplete)
            Turning off the e-brake sensors = 8 short brake lever pull (and I *think* one long...List I got was incomplete)
            Turning ON the e-brake sensors = 9 short brake lever pull and 1 long
          • dirtman
            #7.2
            dirtman commented
            12-25-2020, 12:18 PM
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            C & P from Paxtana. Surron dirt-bikes,, Modification & adjustment section.
            Programming Sur-Ron Controller,

            Support notes this only works if you have the X controller pre-installed. IF you bike came with the base controller and added the x controller later this will not work. Please note it is not promised or guaranteed that all X controllers have this capability, but if you want to give it a try, go for it!

            Note the factory bike comes programmed at level 3 (which is max regen)

            Level 1 regenerative coasting = 2 short brake pull, 1 long
            Level 2 regenerative coasting = 3 short brake pull, 1 long
            Level 3 regenerative coasting = 4 short brake pull, 1 long
            Turning off the regenerative coasting = 7 short brake lever pull
            Turning off the e-brake sensors = 8 short brake lever pull
            Turning ON the e-brake sensors = 9 short brake lever pull and 1 long
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