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    Wires found under seat?

    This week I received our third SurRon and I noticed the rear light was disconnected on the Surron X Black. While I was looking under the seat I found the two connectors for the rear light but I also found a 3 wire connector with a red/black stripe, green, and red/white stripe wires. Anyone know what these are for? Could they be a turn signal wiring?
    Last edited by darthnugget; 05-30-2021, 07:31 PM.

    #2
    Your harness might include a connector for the gps unit found on the street version of lightbee.

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      #3
      I also have a plug in wire under the seat setting idle. Plugged into nothing. 2018 surron.

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        #4
        Definitely also interested in a real answer for this one. I took my seat apart so that I could attach racks on the seat frame and found this same connector. There is also a cavity in the seat with screw lugs to attach something specific

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        • Curl000
          Curl000 commented
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          Ever determine how to add racks?

        #5
        Yes this is for the GPS tracker. Here a picture of the connector on the GPS tracker unitClick image for larger version

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        • rotary
          rotary commented
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          I've got the tracker removed from the bike at the moment to try and configure it to the Tracksolid or Ruhavik app. still struggling connecting it to any apps. SMS seems to work ok.....

        #6
        Ok I see the 4 pin connector for the GPS on my bike but this other 3 pin one is different. I am pretty sure the 3 pin one I found is the rear turn signals. I just ordered a set to connect them up and test.

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          #7
          Worldwide, the Surron is sold as a street legal bike and that connector is for the rear turn signals. Too many laws in the US for Surron to get street legal status here.

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          • dirtman
            dirtman commented
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            Steve AW quote.
            ""Too many laws in the USA for Surron to get street legal status here"".

            Don`t want to get too political...But.
            You should know that Private sector lobbyists write the laws.

            So much for the false statement
            ""Drain The Swamp" which ended up. ""Pardon The Swamp"

          #8
          Yep. I connected them to the rear turn signals and found the other end of them in the pocket under the key. Connected that to a motorcycle bar mount turn signal set and also moved over the sport mode switch and I even wired the headlight for on off mode. I am waiting on the front fork signal lights but overall it was about $60, US on Amazon, to make this thing street legal. The Sur Ron bike is oozing value. My 250x took several hundred to get it plated.

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          • dales2ale
            dales2ale commented
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            On my X the connector is a four position dupont usingl three of the four positions, will be doing the same as you for rear turn signals. Did you have to install flasher.flasher units (wiring harnes and contol boards include fashing circuitrry), .Q, Lookws under the ignition/on key, but all I saw was the rear cable entery the big bundel, Did you open the the bundel from the rear to powerr the front turn signle lights

          #9
          Originally posted by darthnugget View Post
          Yep. I connected them to the rear turn signals and found the other end of them in the pocket under the key. Connected that to a motorcycle bar mount turn signal set and also moved over the sport mode switch and I even wired the headlight for on off mode. I am waiting on the front fork signal lights but overall it was about $60, US on Amazon, to make this thing street legal. The Sur Ron bike is oozing value. My 250x took several hundred to get it plated.
          Would you mind showing a more detailed write-up of your process? I would like to do the same

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            #10
            Originally posted by BeratE View Post

            Would you mind showing a more detailed write-up of your process? I would like to do the same
            I'd be super curious as well. I wired up a brake light (to the sensors) on a couple bikes, but if they are already wired for signals I'd love to see what you found. I always thought that connector was for the GPS. Picture?

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              #11
              Originally posted by BeratE View Post

              Would you mind showing a more detailed write-up of your process? I would like to do the same
              I’m curious as well.

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                #12
                US bike here. I'm customizing my harness to add signals, brake lights, etc. I'm not sure what the connector mentioned above, with the red-white, red-black, and green wires is intended for originally (the GPS guess makes the most sense to me) but I have tested the wires and they are:

                Green: Ground (-)
                Red-White: Ignition In 60V (+)
                Red-Black: Ignition Out 60V (+)

                Red-White is connected directly to the battery.

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                  #13
                  Lots of good stuff going on here. Why would you need 60V there? Wouldn’t 12V be more practical for signals or a vehicle GPS?

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                    #14
                    Originally posted by hotttfire View Post
                    Lots of good stuff going on here. Why would you need 60V there? Wouldn’t 12V be more practical for signals or a vehicle GPS?
                    The GPS needs power when the bike is off (red-white wire) and it needs to know when the bike is on (red-black wire). The 12V DC-DC buck converter isn't on when the ignition is off (it would drain the battery when the bike is off) so 12V isn't really an option.

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                      #15
                      Interesting to see if anyone knows the answer.

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