3000w cyclone What am I in for

[Green Werks]

Dude you are in paradise I will come down and ride around
check out the ebike rental business in Hilton head smoking hot

[Will ride]

Gainesville, or as I reefer to it.....G'ville.

[Green Werks]

$125 a day! Maybe I will go into the ebike rental business. Now if I can just find some place for them to ride. GW, your friends must have been at some tourist destination. I just saw my first ebike besides mine in this town out in front of Publix the other day. Let's see, I could recommend people ride around UF campus. Of course the only thing worth checking out there is the coeds.

The coeds will work
will ride where are you located

[Will ride]

$125 a day! Maybe I will go into the ebike rental business. Now if I can just find some place for them to ride. GW, your friends must have been at some tourist destination. I just saw my first ebike besides mine in this town out in front of Publix the other day. Let's see, I could recommend people ride around UF campus. Of course the only thing worth checking out there is the coeds.

[Dale H]

I stand corrected!

[Green Werks]

Sounds good but not for me. Plus I hear electric bikes are kinda controversial in Florida lol. Have fun and be safe folks no matter where ya roam.......

A friend and his wife just got back from florida and he said they rented ebikes and rode them around
He said that they rented for $125 a day and you had to call ahead to reserve one Man.

[Dale H]

Sounds good but not for me. Plus I hear electric bikes are kinda controversial in Florida lol. Have fun and be safe folks no matter where ya roam.......

[Green Werks]

Ok while sitting around waiting on parts I am going to take apart the stock cyclone free wheel bearing apart and see if I can
modify it to get rid of the slop See will ride you got me started with the whole harbor freight thing
live long and prosper

lets every body load up and meet up in the keys and ride.

[Will ride]

Thanks for posting that fwb.

[funwithbikes]

Bicycle freewheels consist of inner and outer sleeves. The ratcheting is accomplished by sawtooth shaped teeth inside the outer sleeve and spring activated pawls on the inside of the outer sleeve. There are one or more prawls depending on the price and load the freewheel is designed to handle. Two or three prawls are pretty common in mid range bikes. Depending and the size and cost of the freewheel there is one or two sets of bearing. There is a good video at

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The single bearing setup has the advantages of being cheaper to manufacture and they can is physically narrower. The double bearing setup is more expensive to manufacture and slightly wider. The width of the prawns are a key factor in the strength of the ratcheting mechanism. The size and number of bearing are the key factor in how efficiently the freewheel rotates.

My guess is that by only using a single bearing the stock Cyclone freewheel twists laterally under load. because the distance between the chainrings. The chainrings are close together in the dual chainring setup resulting in little lateral twist. In the three chainring setups the the chainrings are farther apart which results in greater twisting and faster wear.

Commuters and road riders will subject the freewheel to many hours of low to moderate torque. Off road riders will subject the freewheel to more high torque bursts followed by lower torque recovery periods. People who pedal assist run a setup with the bottom bracket shaft spinning about 80-100 RPM. "Coasters" tend ride with the bottom bracket spinning faster to reduce tension on the rear chain.

The pawls are only subject to the additional force the riders adds by pedal assist. The bearing are subject to both the motors driving force and the pedal assist force.

It is going to be interesting to see how mid-drives evolve over the next couple of years.

[Will ride]

I see. Freewheel bearing.(s) Who would have guessed? Now you have me wondering just what is inside of those things. Must be some kind of ratcheting thingy - and a (some) bearing(s).

[funwithbikes]

Yes, that is the same conclusion I came to for this build.

The difference between the stock chainring assembly and the luna tick is on par with the difference between a harbor freight mini-mill and a bridgeport :) However, if one is willing to do some tweaking and understands the mini-mill's shortcomings it can be an incredibly useful for someone on a budget.

[Green Werks]

I am going to hold off for now I am working on another build but
when I get a upgrade I will have to go with the double bearing Luna tick
I want it to be as strong as possiable
Thankx for the info

[funwithbikes]

I also have a bit of looseness in the freewheel on the chainring assembly. There are several comments on the ES cyclone thread about people going through freewheels every couple thousand miles. That seems about right when one pays is paying $25 for a dual chainring + freewheel assembly. Replacement freewheels are available at http://cyclone-tw.com/order-chainwheel.htm for between $17 and $50. The brown ones seem to be the prefered replacement.

[Green Werks]

The bearing that I am talking about is the one on the chain ring