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  • Will ride
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    Well now let's see........Take the integral of the voltage drop from 58v to 45v. X avg. amps, times the distance...........mmm, anyway, maybe something like that. I'm not an EE. I suppose if you limit the current to an already low wattage/efficient motor and you help out you could get some pretty good mileage out of one of these packs. I run at a fairly steady 10 amps with spikes to 30 on the hills and acceleratiing and when I goose the throttle to get ahead of some traffic, or get away from a stop if I have not thought ahead enough to gear down. I am always on pedal assist set at 3 and 4 out of the available 9. My setup will do 30 mph no problemo on pure throttle. It is too scary. I stay at 23 max. (pedaliing)

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  • Green Werks
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    Originally posted by Will ride View Post
    I can do 40 miles with some light pedaling. I typically go 21 to 28 between charges because I only charge to 80% - 55v. and only discharge down to no less than 48v. I have read that this should increase battery life significantly (it wasn't cheap). Supposedly without inducing 'memory' into the battery. I used a lot of Lipo's in RC heli's and of course burned them from high to low so this type of battery usage is new to me. But I also love getting the most value and use out of my power stuff rather than high performance (except heli's). I drive all my gas vehicles like a granny. The only thing I push hard are my roller skates, my skis. (And my wo.......:)
    Greetings
    The battery that Luna has says it has the potential of a 100 mile range it is the square 52v 20ah one
    I wonder how they figure that
    The cnc dude is coming over to the shop today to take a look at what it will take to make my support
    bracket set up
    his off the top of his head price is the first run will be what I thought $300.00 to $400.00 dollars
    I don't know If I want to spend that much ,if that's the case I will make them by hand.
    scroll saw, ban saw, drill press. chop cut grind old school.

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  • Will ride
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    I can do 40 miles with some light pedaling. I typically go 21 to 28 between charges because I only charge to 80% - 55v. and only discharge down to no less than 48v. I have read that this should increase battery life significantly (it wasn't cheap). Supposedly without inducing 'memory' into the battery. I used a lot of Lipo's in RC heli's and of course burned them from high to low so this type of battery usage is new to me. But I also love getting the most value and use out of my power stuff rather than high performance (except heli's). I drive all my gas vehicles like a granny. The only thing I push hard are my roller skates, my skis. (And my wo.......:)

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  • Green Werks
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    Originally posted by Will ride View Post

    Well not exactly in this context. I was looking for an expression to replace baited (sp?) breath that might have some kind of context to ebikes (d'oh) - to express my anticipation of the furtherment of your project. (whew)

    I am wondering, however, If there is going to be some easily obtainable, reliable, 72 volters coming along. I can almost imagine what this cyclone 3k will do with a powerful, high amper. Until then I will probably be using the 52 volter I have been running with the bbshd - 20 ah. Goes pretty good.

    Am hoping to stumble into a decent 29er, used, with a decent shocked front. Finally know somewhat what the components should be like. Now know some of the difference between deore and deore xt. The xt works very well. Crazy how many bike components are out there.
    Good morning another day in paradise
    I get it now I 'am a little slow on the up take
    My wife was in the bike business for a while she worked at a Hi end bike shop for a wile and use to go to the trade shows
    she says that it is crazy how the new stuff for bikes updates every year always something better on the horizon
    Question what kind of range are you getting with your set up
    thankx for the come back
    Not much to do in the shop today waiting now to meet with the cnc guy so he can see what I need and how much it will cost to make it.
    Bill.

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  • Will ride
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    Originally posted by Green Werks View Post

    R U waiting on a battery also?
    Well not exactly in this context. I was looking for an expression to replace baited (sp?) breath that might have some kind of context to ebikes (d'oh) - to express my anticipation of the furtherment of your project. (whew)

    I am wondering, however, If there is going to be some easily obtainable, reliable, 72 volters coming along. I can almost imagine what this cyclone 3k will do with a powerful, high amper. Until then I will probably be using the 52 volter I have been running with the bbshd - 20 ah. Goes pretty good.

    Am hoping to stumble into a decent 29er, used, with a decent shocked front. Finally know somewhat what the components should be like. Now know some of the difference between deore and deore xt. The xt works very well. Crazy how many bike components are out there.
    Last edited by Will ride; 12-19-2016, 06:32 PM.

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  • Green Werks
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    Ok dudes this is the cake in the cake3 this is exactly the size I need for the middle wedge support
    I cant make the outer wedge until I get the outer support plate made that will be the next step
    That's enough for me for today tomorrow is another day
    Live long and prosper

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  • Green Werks
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    Forgot one
    Tying it all tougher

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  • Green Werks
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    More work on the Motor Mount
    Jerry Lee helped

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  • Green Werks
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    Originally posted by Will ride View Post
    Waiting with baited batt......ery.
    R U waiting on a battery also?

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  • Will ride
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    Waiting with baited batt......ery.

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  • Green Werks
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    Greetings and salutations to all you cyclone 3000w heads
    Not much new
    I set up a meeting with my cnc guy to take a look at my motor mount design
    From the pictures that I emailed him he says it's a piece of cake
    The next big thing is ok how much is this going to cost me
    I've had him make me motorcycle parts before and usually a simple design usually runs $200.00 to $300.00 for the first run
    After the initial set up it usually runs about $25.00 bucks a copy to make them. I will press on
    The more that I check out the little cyclone 3000w set up the more I like it
    It is a very simple design I think it just needs some better parts to go with it, like the Luna crank Ounce I get this thing set up and testing it
    I will order that and upgrade the whole crank set up.
    But first get the motor hard mounted to the frame so there is no flex
    With the torque strap and the 36v 15ah bat it is solid (But) when I get the luna 52v 20ah bat I think it will need more
    support to keep it tight in the cradle
    This gary fisher has to be able to be used like a motorcycle and hold up and not be breaking all the time
    If this whole ebike thing pans out I have another mount design on paper that is a full cradle mount
    On a lot of the stupid power race bikes that I work on the engine has it's own cradle that just bolts up to the frame
    This kind of mount wont be cheap to cnc but would be the cats meow

    When I can get my hands on a new Luna 52v 20ah batt I will put it all on the dyno and see what's up
    See what kinda speeds I can get what kind of data I can collect on batt power and power usage
    How hot the motor and controller gets under hard conditions
    I will be great fun
    Cheers Bill.

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  • Rix Ryds
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    Love the battery mount!

  • Green Werks
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    Mail man showed up with the bag for the controller it turned out great
    clean package.
    lucked out with that one
    Stoked waiting for Luna cycle to restock the 52v 20ah square battery
    last I talked to them they said in about 4 weeks to me it is worth the wait
    They seem to be great people to buy from straight up.

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  • Green Werks
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    Another change in the bracket so I can add a left side torque to Mr. Fisher
    It never ends it's a sickness

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  • Green Werks
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    Originally posted by ALL AMPED OUT View Post
    dude that is a work of art , it looks like you have done this before , please keep the custom mods coming ,, and i hope you don't mined if i copy your fabrications


    ALL AMPED OUT
    Dude I got this idea from you when I saw your set up it inspired me to stretch it out a little
    A few changes but your concept
    That is a paper template I have to take it to my cnc guy who makes parts for my motorcycle builds
    and have him cut me one out and trim it up a lot more make it pretty
    Today I might try to get the molding clay out shove it up in between the arms and make a aluminum wedge
    tie them tougher to make a stiffer mount
    Dude we are in kahootz on this
    Cyclone made in China Made better in USA

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