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  • Green Werks
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    Mock up torque strap this is not a final product they will be cnc made if it proves out

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  • Green Werks
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    Thankx for the info Bubblehide
    Update
    Greetings This is what I have found out so far
    When you build a ebike the first thing you should buy is the battery and a proper charger it is the heart of the system.
    For this 3000w kit be ready to spend $700.00 plus.
    I have been testing the 3000w set up with the 36v 15ah battery out of my 800w hub set up
    Man that is like whistling Dixie the 3000w on the test dyno sucks the power like right now
    The Battery just does not have the stuff to keep up with the 40a controller you need a 50a continuous out put battery
    to make it happen.
    The throttle that comes with the kit just wont do for my set up the shifters hit and you cant change gears
    The whole mounting system needs work but it is very doable, the problem that I can see is the two little
    aluminum brackets that mount to the motor and the arms from the bottom bracket that needs to be one solid cnc piece
    I will treat this like a motorcycle build
    build it test it break it make it stronger and test it again
    all in all I really like the kit and when it gets sorted out I think that it will be a great bike
    it will get used about 2000 to 3000 miles a year and it needs to be tough and reliable
    Todays agenda is to clean up the torque strap and extend the wire harness coming out of the motor
    it needs to be longer to be able to reach the controller where I have it mounted
    Cheers Bill.
    Last edited by Green Werks; 12-09-2016, 05:20 AM.

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  • Bubblehide
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    Put the battery on your want list on the Luna site, and they will notify you when they get them in. They can be a bit unpredictable with some stock, but you can't beat their prices. When you do get a hold of them, there pretty friendly.

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  • Green Werks
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    Update I came up with a torque strap to help stabilize the motor also used long bolts all the way through the mounts
    for the bottom bracket like some one else suggested.
    It seems to be a lot stiffer and does not move with the 36v battery
    That's not to say it will work with the 52v battery
    The most time taken was to get the motor centered so the sprockets lined up
    everything is smooth and looking good The throttle that came with the kit will not work with my bike
    the shifters hit will have to get a different throttle thinking a full throttle like on a motorcycle
    this will keep me busy this winter
    Does any one know when luna will get back in stock the 52v 20ah square
    Tried to call them but could not hook up with any one
    Thankx Bill.

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  • Green Werks
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    I for got to put the picture check these out
    and my beloved walmart mountain bike
    and my shop helper Jerry Lee
    Cheers again Bill

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  • Green Werks
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    Update :
    Dudes the 3000w came in today I got it mounted up and wired I used a 36v 15ah battery out of my Wal-Mart mountain bike with a 800w hub I love that bike I have a blast on that thing
    But the hard tail is a little narlie for a minute there I thought I was riding my Husqvarna man.
    I went with the Cake3 because I wanted to try out the suspension thing and see if it smooth things out, I picked it up in perfect condition for $300.00 bucks and being the motor head that I am I just had to try the 3000w and able to shift gears thing out
    especially when I have read that it will power wheeles O be still my beating heart
    There is a lot to do that whole mounting thing has to improve boys we need to make it bullet proof
    I don't have a battery at this point I am waiting for the lunar to get the 52v 20ah battery back in so I can give them some money
    I suppose that I will be working on this thing all the time but I enjoy that after being a motorcycle mechanic for 50 years I still like
    to take em apart and put them back tougher
    Cheers Bill.
    Last edited by Green Werks; 12-07-2016, 08:05 PM.

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  • calfee20
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    I read someplace that small rear cogs like an 11 tooth are prone todo this with muscle power. Can you go up a few teeth somewhere up front so you can use larger sprockets in back?

  • Eastcreek
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    With enough determination I am of the opinion ANY bike can be made to adapt to the Cyclone. I was told my Wal-Mart Mountain Bike was not a good candidate for an e-bike yet it has performed well! My only regrets are no suspension other than what I plan to do for a spring mounted new seat. I also wish I would have gone with the single chain ring since going 1-6 gears can easily lift the front wheel in 1st and reach ~35 in 6th gear. I tried a smaller rear sprocket to get a faster top end speed but the 6 speed chain kept skipping over sprocket teeth. :(

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  • Green Werks
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    Originally posted by Rix Ryds View Post
    That is a very nice bike, but is not a great e bike candidate. The horizontal rear shock right in the middle of the triangle is going to make mounting a cyclone or a battery tough. Rear seat post battery mounts suck. If you mount it there, you will not like it, throws the weight of a great bike way off. Bottom line, some bikes shouldn't be ebikes! Go shred some singletrack with the Gary fisher, and find a more suitable ebike candidate. My $.02 FWIW.
    I feel ya dog.
    I have other ebikes and I had the cake 3 set up with a hub motor 800w 36v 15ah bat.
    It did ok but I want to see what the whole 3000w 52v 20ah thing is all about
    It is winter in my neck of the woods the motorcycle business is Done, and out of need just for something
    to do until next summer I started building ebikes. A lot cheaper than building Motorcycles
    I appreciate your feed back I think the cake 3 is going to be a good platform to work with I like the suspension and the quality
    of the welds, the brakes need to be up graded to some hydraulics and it would be cool to up grade the front end
    with a set of triple tree inverted forks and what ever it takes to
    make it as safe and semi ride able as possible I can make that happen also.
    Bill 113moto

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  • Rix Ryds
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    That is a very nice bike, but is not a great e bike candidate. The horizontal rear shock right in the middle of the triangle is going to make mounting a cyclone or a battery tough. Rear seat post battery mounts suck. If you mount it there, you will not like it, throws the weight of a great bike way off. Bottom line, some bikes shouldn't be ebikes! Go shred some singletrack with the Gary fisher, and find a more suitable ebike candidate. My $.02 FWIW.

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  • Green Werks
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    I am going to mount the battery on a seat post rack

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  • Bubblehide
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    You in for an incredible amount of torque. However, I wonder if you will have room for the battery.

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  • Green Werks
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    3000w cyclone What am I in for

    Dudes I ordered a cyclone 3000w mid drive
    I am putting it on a Gary Fisher Cake3 mountain bike
    I am going to run the 52v 20ah battery
    What am I in for
    any thoughts would be great
    Thankx Bill.
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