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    Rohloff XL hub install on a Surly Wednesday

    I have the frame coming, any day! This will be my second Rohloff build, so not a total newbie. The Wednesday has slotted horizontal dropouts, and it looks like a I can use a QR type Rohloff after all (instead of the through axle version, which seem to be real hard to come by,) using these Surly Tuggnutts. https://www.google.com/search?q=Surl...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    You will notice, they also double as a bottle opener, very crafty folk, these Surly people. I should be picking up my frame very soon, maybe Wednesday appropriately enough, in a big time bike shop in SLC, whose owner seems to have some Rohloff knowledge of some sort. I will pick his brain and confirm that the Tuggnutts may be the easiest way for me to go.

    #2
    I just found this post, ( https://forums.mtbr.com/surly/ecr-rohloff-929251.htm ) looks like I'll be getting two Tuggnutts plus a heavy duty sort of custom skewer with an extra high clamping force, from Paul's Components. It's starting to come together!

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      #3
      Very interested in this project as I hope to add a Rohloff to my eSurly ECR someday -AND/OR- do a Trek 1120 or Stache Rohloff pedal build. Any QR Rohloff that is compatable with 12mm thru axle frame applications from 135mm to 148mm are of interest (I think there are 12mm washer spacers?). Anything you come across that will work with Trek’s “stranglehold” rear axle system for belt drive adjustment is of interest too. Thanks for posting this up!

      PS: Can’t get the MTBR link to work.
      2018 Surly ECR 5spd IGH 29+: https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...id-drive-build
      2013 Niner Jet 9: https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...lectric-assist
      2016 Soma B-Side Belt Drive 3spd IGH: https://electricbike.com/forum/forum...v-custom-build

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        #5
        I have my Wednesday frame in the shop, looks good! And also a few responses from a few online Rohloff sellers, that all see to offer, like LUNA, ONLY the CC version. I explained I want the TS version, and included a link to Rohloff's site that clearly explains the difference between the two versions. But only one seems to be interested in why they (365bikes) also don't offer the TS version, maybe it's just because the majority want the CC version, fair enough. But I asked them to get hold of whoever their wholesale source for the hubs is, and ask them direct, why the TS version seems to be made of unobtainium, though listed on the official Rohloff site! It's just odd that it would be so hard to find, I'm getting real curious for an explanation.

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          #6
          I just stumbled upon this, after I thought I had googled all possible combinations of SURLY, and ROHLOFF, this came up finally!https://surlybikes.com/blog/der_baro...von_moonlander VERY informative, all I need really, and note no mention is made of a threaded axle, just a high quality QR skewer seems to get the job done. This mean, since I've exhausted any other source of threaded axle R hubs (NO ONE sells them, no one, no I don't know why) I was within a few minutes of calling Cycle Monkey (since they didn't respond to 3 emails over the last week) and beg them for info on the threaded axle version. My fear was that they and they alone would have one, at a cost over $400.00 higher then the CC/QR version, and they would have me over the proverbial barrel. So now I am re ordering my original hub from Luna, I'd much rather give them my money then Cycle Monkey, I like Luna's attitude a whole better then the Monkey's, they are way too high end of a bike shop for me!

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            #7
            Glad you found your solution.

            In all your searching, did you ever get a sense of how the Bike Discount vendor (out of Germany) is to deal with?
            2nd build, 2018 Crust Scapegoat, BBS02 or BBSHD, Rohloff IGH
            3rd build, 2018 Crust Evasion step-thru, BBS02, Shimano Nexus INTER-3 IGH
            4th build, 2016 Salsa Marrakesh flatbar frameset, BBSHD, Alfine 8 IGH

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              #8
              I did, no response whatsoever from them, after two emails a few days apart. Their pricing was by far the best, but geez they need to work on their customer service just a tad. Customs duty can be significant also, plus shipping. I found this out when I bought a set of skis for my kitplane from a Canadian outfit. I'm thinking that would have brought the price up for what I paying LUNA for it.

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                #9
                I have some miles on the BBSHD/Wednesday/Rohloff combo now, 100+ miles of trail rides, and it has proven so far to be a great ride. No issues whatsoever. Riding with some friends who both have the latest wazoo Haibikes, on some pretty technical stuff, was a good test. It is so nice to come to an unexpected super steep section, that you couldn't see coming as it was behind a cork screwing switchback, and just instantly go to the proper gear with no typical derailleur BS. Most of the time I grab 2 to 4 gears at a time, but then there are the times when it's really nice to be able to just hit the next gear up or down, at least my range seems to be really good, as I'm riding real efficient most of the time. Snow is still melting on the higher elevations, where the real rough trails are, so these first few rides have been a good shake out to see how things would work, so far, great.

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                  #10


                  Hi CPG Do you have a phone number where I can contact you?

                  Bob
                  519-636-6636

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