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    #16
    Does anyone know how to lower the seat? It looks as if when you loosen the seat screw that it could be raised but there seems like there are two posts and the smaller post is on the lowest setting. I'm 6'1" and it still seems kind of tall.

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    • HopHead88
      HopHead88 commented
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      the seat is on a remote dropper post.... it shoule have a leaver on the handlebars that will lower the seat, but you need to be applying downward pressure or else it will raise. I am assuming since mine is still in fed ex purgatory.....

    • bl2000watts
      bl2000watts commented
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      That is the seat dropper post remote. Mine is not working either.

    #17
    Just took delivery of mine last night and assembled today. Beautiful bike - very well integrated battery and motor. Work of art!. Anyway my dropper post is not working either - anyone have any ideas.

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      #18
      Originally posted by steelersmb View Post
      I just put my bike together. Does anyone know what the switch next to the throttle does? I haven't had a chance to ride mine yet but was just wondering.
      That's the dropper seat post release. If you press it while sitting on the seat, the seat will go down. Take care to stabilize yourself :)

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        #19
        A quick note on the dropper seat post for anyone experiencing an issue. I had to adjust mine slightly. The seat would "leak" down as I rode. I made a quick video yesterday when I made the adjustment.

        My dropper release cable was adjusted juuuust a little too tight from the factory, so I pulled the post, released some slack, and I'm good to go. Others have...

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          #20
          How fast has everyone been able to get their bike going on throttle mode? I have only been able to go about 21 MPH. A little disappointing. I bought my son an FLX bike which has the same exact motor and it goes about 26-28 MPH.

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          • bradleyland
            bradleyland commented
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            The top speed is gearing limited. The bike comes out of the box setup to climb like a mountain goat. A larger front chainring would give you more top speed.

          • joost
            joost commented
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            I had a Bionx that would only go 20... but a 7 mile commute going 20 was no fun. Of course when I get mine, I’m off roading!

          • Robocam
            Robocam commented
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            How many teeth are on the chainring of your FLX?

          #21
          I am getting 25 mph. I was stuck at 20 the other day. It was unexplainable. I haven't gotten to the bottom of why that happened.

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            #22
            Originally posted by tomdav View Post
            This bike is marketed as silent. Mine seems pretty loud.

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            Is this normal? Any way to make it quieter? Or is this a consequence of the steel gears?
            Mine sounds like a 49cc moped just screaming down the road. Even on low speeds with low assist the motor still has a significant whine to it.

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            • Zith18
              Zith18 commented
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              I have the same issue. I’m hoping for a solution before the week’s end. The trails I’ll be riding don’t have rules against ebikes but if I come in with my noisy ebike I may get them all banned :(

            • tomdav
              tomdav commented
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              Paging Scoonie to tell you it isn't that loud. Sorry to hear it isn't just me. The noise may die down somewhat as the gears break in. Also, check out Kepler's tear down video. His motor was quieter than mine before, and he said he got a 20% reduction in noise after re-greasing. Worth a try.

            #23
            Originally posted by Jsaw View Post

            Mine sounds like a 49cc moped just screaming down the road. Even on low speeds with low assist the motor still has a significant whine to it.
            It's hard to tell how loud is loud, Maybe you could check it with a db. meeter, you can download an app or buy one cheap.

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              #24
              I had the same problems with my M-620 Ultra. In its well-developed condition it was still quite ,maybe a little louder than a BBsHD, but once he was installed in the frame, he was quite loud because the voluminous frame amplifies the vibration as a resonant body. I was able to halve the volume by placing sealing paper between the motor and the frame and filling the cavities with foam. Maybe that helps with Luna X-1

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              • paxtana
                paxtana commented
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                That is an interesting suggestion, and could be worth a shot.

                We were discussing sound with our lead mechanic and he said that the motor echoes through the carbon frame so you might be onto something there. Though I would probably start with greasing it, given that it appears pretty easy to service and Bafang has been known to skimp on the grease in previous motors.

              • bl2000watts
                bl2000watts commented
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                Wouldn't that create the potential for the motor to overheat?

              • KaroKönig
                KaroKönig commented
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                Because of the overheating, I would not consider. The foam does not sit directly on the engine and the carbon frame derives no heat in contrast to the aluminum frame.In my case, the engine is just as warm as before, only quieter

              #25
              I bought two x1’s, a small and a medium. Both of them make a much much louder noise then I was expecting. I’m really hoping there is a solution to quiet them down. I’m mulling over sending them back. Also one of the dropper posts doesn’t stay up. Looks like I’ll have to take the seat post out and apply the fix a poster above mentioned.

              Other then the above I am super excited about these bikes. Thanks Luna for making such a compelling offering! I really really hope there is something that can be done about the noise.

              Last edited by Zith18; 10-02-2019, 06:45 AM.

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              • Breadwig
                Breadwig commented
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                I am kind of stuck on whether to get a small or a medium once they're available again. I'm 5'7. What do you think of the size difference between them?

              • Zith18
                Zith18 commented
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                The medium felt fine but so did the small. Im 5’7 as well and I think the small is what I would go with personally

              #26
              There is an adjuster for the dropper post. It is and inch or two down the cable from the lever on the handlebars. You just turn it cw or ccw.

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                #27
                Originally posted by paxtana View Post
                That is an interesting suggestion, and could be worth a shot.

                We were discussing sound with our lead mechanic and he said that the motor echoes through the carbon frame so you might be onto something there. Though I would probably start with greasing it, given that it appears pretty easy to service and Bafang has been known to skimp on the grease in previous motors.
                Well I thought Luna put in steel gears so wouldn't you have greased it if the grease job Bafang did was inadequate?

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                • paxtana
                  paxtana commented
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                  Is Kepler's frame carbon?

                • tomdav
                  tomdav commented
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                  Yes, exact same carbon frame. He did his own build (as did Wayne) buying the frame directly from Defgfu. Wayne has the original version of the M600 with the nylon reduction gear and noise isn't an issue for him. Kepler has the steel gear but indicates he got it quiet enough to live with after re-greasing. Here are the respective builds on ES:

                  Kepler: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/vi...?f=28&t=101715

                  Wayne: https://endless-sphere.com/forums/vi...p?f=28&t=96461

                • steelersmb
                  steelersmb commented
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                  I received a letter with my bike stating that Luna did outfit the motor with a steel gear.

                #28
                Also Paxtana, just to clairify Kepler got his direct from Denfu a month or so ago as he is in Australia and I got mine direct from Dengfu and it came with the plastic gear as I was one of the early buyers of this paltform.

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                  #29
                  I took the bikes out on the trail with my wife. I was really excited and I really really wanted to like the bikes. I unfortunately there are just too many issues.

                  1) As discussed above, the noise was just very high and very off putting.

                  2) The power levels are weird. It felt like I was riding a poorly tuned prototype. Levels 1 and 2 are basically useless. I found them to be the same as riding a regular bike. Just enough power to make it feel like a normal bike. Then 3 is insanely powerful nearly the same as 4, 5, and boost. I could barely tell the difference between the upper levels. I really wanted a goldi locks level of power. Maybe with out the ludicrous upgrade 3 would have felt better. Either way it was either too low power to be useful (levels 1 and 2) under 100 watts on the display. Or waay too much, over 500 hundred watts on the display. I also tried the 9 level settings it was the same issue anything 4 or under was useless and anything over 5 was too much.

                  3) The cords in the display units won’t stay in. My wife’s came out 6 times during the ride and mine came out 8 times. I jammed them in as hard as a I can and still got periodic turn offs that required you to rejam the plugs. They never fell out but just came loose enough to lose connection

                  The above three issues together are a deal breaker for me. Combined with the seat post issues I will be sending them back :(

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                  • Zith18
                    Zith18 commented
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                    It’s total wattage that’s the problem, I’m serious it feels like there are only two power setttings. Very low or very high.

                  • joost
                    joost commented
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                    Power setting screw probably would have addressed that; perhaps that’s why there’s such a disparity.

                  • Robocam
                    Robocam commented
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                    I don't feel that way about the power levels. I find that there is a distinct difference between levels 1 or 2 (I say 1 or 2 because I haven't really played with them much), 3, 4 and 5. What I wish is that the throttle was set so that it could command all 2000 watts at any assist setting. The way it's currently setup, the throttle doesn't command full power even at the highest assist level because when I activate the torque sensor, the power reading on the display goes up even higher. This can lead to people falsely thinking it's not that powerful if they're using throttle-only.

                  #30
                  I'm getting ready to order an X1 but The add still says no throttle with the Ludi upgrade, I believe this has changed? a throttle is an absolute must for me.

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                  • Robocam
                    Robocam commented
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                    Mine came with a throttle so yours probably will too :)

                  • paxtana
                    paxtana commented
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                    Listing has been updated to clarify that it has throttle now.
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