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    E-bike Controls Survey

    Hello E-bike enthusiasts! I am a Dutch 4th year Industrial Product Design student and for my bachelors graduation project I need your help!

    I am interested in learning more about the users of E-bikes and what they think of the current E-bike controls, at the moment I am doing a graduation project about redesigning the controls for the E-bike with the goal of making an ergonomic, minimalistic and especially intuitive design where only the essential control elements of an e-bike are included.

    Therefore I have made a small survey, this will only take you about 5 minutes. Thank you in advance!

    https://goo.gl/forms/qOErIjzPAQzrf3lJ3

    #2
    Done. More like 10-15 min, though, a lot of 'other' answers required typing, and the text entry is hard to use. At the end I quit typing answers, some blanks, was taking too long...but I left you some insightful comments which I hope will be helpful.
    Fabrication is fun! Build something today. Show someone. Let them help. Inspire and share. Spread the desire.

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      #3
      The minimalist setup I’d like to see is a super light weight electric assist mid-drive that freewheels without drag so you can ride it as a bicycle without penalty. As for controls, all that is needed is an on/off button (or key) and a variable assist lever or button for power assist that only works when pedaling (not a throttle). This is my preferred setup for a MTB. All you need a a little extra help,when climbing and the rest of the time it is simply a bicycle. The mid-drive MUST be completely silent too. Good luck is your designs.
      MOVING BACK TO PEDAL...
      2020 Banshee Paradox V3 1x11 (pedal)
      2018 Soma Wolverine 3spd IGH Belt Drive (pedal)

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      • tklop
        tklop commented
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        Hmmm...

        Lightweight? Check.

        Freewheels with zero extra drag? Check.

        Up - On/off - Dn button? Check.

        No throttle? Check.

        MUST be completely silent too? Well--now you're dreaming. A mid-drive cannot deliver power to your wheels without gears. To be "completely silent" a mid-drive would need to somehow circumvent the laws of physics.

        Other than that fantasy (I'd love a silent mid-drive too)--it sounds a whole lot like you're describing the TSDZ2! (and in fairness--it's quieter than most mid-drives on the market---I share the bike-paths with hundreds of others of various brands).

        I'm with you though--simplicity is really the way to go!

        All the best

        Tklop

      #4
      Bicycles (as you should know--if you are in The Netherlands) are not "for indoor use only" devices.

      Therefore--the most important recommendation possible I have to offer, is this:

      Any components, controls, input-devices, sensors, or any other electrical device intended for use on a bicycle--should be waterproof and tough enough to withstand long-term use on a rental jet-ski.

      Whatever your thesis or goals, be sure to include this as a bare-minimum standard--in your most important of conclusions. The industry as a whole has refused to acknowledge this simple reality in any mainstream designs to date--including the ridiculously overpriced, overrated, and underperforming "Stromer" series of junk-bikes.

      Much work has been put in by companies like Luna Cycle; customizing and hand-manufacturing individual components--for weatherproofing--(like the batteries available to their North American customers). Individual "end users" too have done much to weatherproof their projects. But none of the mass-produced e-bike components show even the faintest signs that any real waterproofing effort was invested. This includes throttles, e-bike brake-handles (which could just as easily have waterproof microswitches inside), control-dongles, displays, even simple sensors--all easily could be much better.

      Must withstand long-term use--when installed on a rental jet-ski. Anything less--go back to the drawing board and try again.

      Best of luck!

      Tklop
      Last edited by tklop; 12-01-2019, 11:59 PM.

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        #5
        Interesting survey, already passed it.

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          #6
          I'm very interested in electric bikes, although I do not have enough knowledge about them. I was thinking about learning the basics of electric bikes and tutorials on how to use them. I started completing surveys and reading comments on them. I would like to get some advice on what electric bike to get. I have an eight thousand dollar budget and I don't want to spend it on a bike that will not last for long. If you have the time and will to help me I would be very grateful.
          Last edited by simonama; 5 days ago.

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