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    How to pick out a BBSHD kit for your build

    For BBSHD please check out this link.

    First thing to confirm is that you want BBSHD over BBS02, usually you do as the BBSHD has higher reliability and better efficiency than BBS02 as it is overbuilt, HD denotes heavy-duty. You can always dial down the power to same level as BBS02 if you wish.
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    We are going to go step-by-step down the list of the available options on the listing.

    You would use the 750 W option on the listing if you want that power level although it is easily configurable later for any power level you wish with the program cable.
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    Next you want to figure out what size you want. Confirm that you have a regular bottom bracket shell on the bike, if you just check out this thread it will go over how to confirm that, it's pretty easy. If you don't have a fatbike or a very old bike or some super high end mountain bike then you probably need the regular size BBSHD but it is highly recommended to confirm. Note that the descriptor [Standard, Fat, Extra Fat] is denoting the Bottom Bracket size, NOT the bike size. There are some fatbikes that use standard BB and some regular sized bikes that use Fat BB. If in doubt, measure it!
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    For information on the chainrings as well as a video on picking out chainrings check out the top of this thread.
    There's lots more chainring options lower down in the options as well if you prefer a different style. Please note the kit already comes with a stock chainring which is adequate for getting a feel for what size you may want and how much you want to move the chainring in or out for your application. If you are not sure, start with stock.
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    For the display you have a few options, there's no one right answer that's best here and there is a bunch of information about each one if you go to the individual listing for that display on the site. The DPC 18 is the only one with a USB port so if you want to charge your phone using USB port you might want to get that one. If you prefer a horizontal display go for the 750c version. But if you plan on using a 52V battery and would like LCD to be accurate, go with the 750C or the DPC-18 and use the voltage mode. The C961 batt meter is only accurate on a 48V system.
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    The gear sensor is not strictly necessary but it makes a great addition and makes shifting much more enjoyable. Your cassette and derailleur will thank you. We have the documentation to the gear sensor on the individual gear sensor listing if you want to check it out.
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    For throttle choices we have a bunch of options, depending on whether you like a twist throttle like you might find on a motorbike, or the universal thumb throttle which is great for either side. We also have the left thumb throttle which if you are using on the left-hand side can make a great choice, but it depends on how you have the rest of the components on your handlebars arranged whether you can make use of this. If in doubt start with the universal thumb throttle you can always upgrade it later.
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    On the program cable option you don't need this but it may be nice to have in case you ever want to change configuration options for fine tuning power levels and that sort of thing, also you can run the kit in a diagnostics mode using the program cable to bypass the display, which is a cheap and easy way to find out if your display is functioning if you are doing troubleshooting.
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    As far as battery options this is highly dependent on how much battery you can fit in your bike triangle and how much you can afford as well as how much range you are looking for. At a minimum you want to make sure that you make a cardboard mockup of the battery you are looking at and physically seeing if it will fit in your frame. You also have the option of selecting no battery and going with a battery that is not included in the list by simply going to the battery section on the site, not all of them are included in the options but the kit will work with any 48 V or 52 V battery.

    When deciding between a 48v and 52v battery there's a couple things to keep in mind. 52v is a bit faster but many displays are built for 48v. 52v will work with everything we sell but the battery gauge may be off so you want to go off of the voltage to determine the charge percentage. For more info on the differences between 48v and 52v please see this link.


    Generally you want the biggest battery you can manage so you don't run into range anxiety and going long distance as well as having a long cycle life, larger batteries will get more cycles than smaller batteries if treated with optimal care. For more info on this and battery fitment please check out the documentation on the beginning of these threads:
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    For ebrake options it is important to keep in mind that the standard brake levers only work with mechanical brakes. However using ebrakes at all is completely optional and up to you, the system will work fine without having any ebrakes connected. If you have hydraulic brakes you want to select the option for the magnetic ebrakes. Installation just involves having the magnet and sensor positioned in such a way that when you pull the lever it pulls the magnet away from the sensor. If you have the magnet too far away from the sensor the motor won't start so you have to make sure it's pretty close, please check out our documentation if needed.
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    For the charger we have essentially 3 different options. Standard, mini and advanced. Standard is dead simple, affordable and reliable. Mini is a good form factor, has important features like fuse and variable charge percentage. Advanced has the most features including a nice display, variable charge percentage and variable charge speed.
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    Please see additional notes in the post below.
    Last edited by Sebz; 09-05-2017, 05:53 PM.

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    We would also highly recommend clicking the other links on the listing to check out our extensive documentation. Especially the wiki page and battery page. This goes over all aspects of installation and picking out chainring, doing modifications, tips and tricks etc, we recommend bookmarking this link for future reference.

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    Additionally, keep in mind that every option on listing has its own listing where you can find more info. This is very useful if you want to learn more about each component!

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      #3
      I want to install the BBSHD on a new redesign Surly Ice Cream Truck fat bike frame it has a 100mm BB but I am worried about clearance with the chain stay. Should I go with 120 mm kit to be safe? Any down side to going with 120mm?

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      #4
      Anyone I have a 2015 specialized epic comp 29 carbon would you recommend to make the conversion? I would like BBSHD thanks

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        #5
        Originally posted by Epic 29 comp View Post
        Anyone I have a 2015 specialized epic comp 29 carbon would you recommend to make the conversion? I would like BBSHD thanks
        Well ... if your bike frame has a big 'ol turkey jowel on the front of the bottom bracket like this, no BBS motor will likely fit:

        If it's like this, you may have a chance if you're willing to mount the motor straight down or slightly back:


        You need to make the measurements, here's one of the reference documents.

        Last edited by ncmired; 12-26-2019, 02:26 PM.
        BBSHD / BBS02: Nexus / Alfine 8: 1 2 3 4 5 6, Rohloff: 1 | PHOTON: Alfine 8: 1 2

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        • Epic 29 comp
          Epic 29 comp commented
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          Thank you for info

        • Epic 29 comp
          Epic 29 comp commented
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          My bike is exactly like the bottom picture

        #6
        I am getting close to buying a Luna Bafang kit. I thought I wanted a BBSHD mid-drive with a 48v battery, but I see as of today that only 52v batteries are offered as choices? I don't intend to abuse the eBike, but I read higher chance of burning out components being more common with 52v. I may sometimes use the eBike to ride distances back to my car and I don't want it to overheat. I am not concerned about burst power so I don't think that I need 52v. 48v battery may be overly cautious, but I read it is most efficient and reliable (I am cost conscious and want lowest cost of repair/replacement ) So what can you tell me I'm missing with regard to battery choice ordering the kit from Luna? (why are only 52v batteries offered today?)

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        #7
        Does your bbshd bare motor and controller come with the connectors coming out of the motor? Your picture doesn't show these. Thank you!

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        • paxtana
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          If you mean the standard wires that are on the controller like for the harness, discharge, speedo and gearsensor, yes. The controller has the same wires on the bare motor as if you bought the controller separately.

        #8
        just read thru the thread and I am curious as to why the Luna 500C is not mentioned ? I see it on the Luna website in the BHSD kit as a option , but not here .... just wondering :)

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        • paxtana
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          I wrote this document three years ago, long before we introduced the 500c. Probably could use some updating if I had the time.

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        paxtana commented
        19 hours ago



        "I wrote this document three years ago, long before we introduced the 500c. Probably could use some updating if I had the time."

        I see thank you for clearing that up ! :D



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