Tannus Tire liners.

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I had a Schwalbe 50% coupon for a couple Energizer Plus tires I sent back. No full refund because I had mounted them. So I used it to get a couple of the Ebike rated Big Ben tires w/o the extra flat protection layers of the Plus tires.. I have an extra uncut Tannus if needed. I'll do both tires because that gets me back where I started for tire weight. I think the sealed tubes will be OK for the front. I'm definitely sticking with Tannus in the rear on the HT bike.

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Of course the Stan's Notube sealant in the tubes weighs even less, so I run that in the front.
So 2x BB+ and 1 Tannus 935+935+300=2170g. 2xBB 760+760+300= 1820g. The tire sealant isn't weightless but I'm going to run it in front either way, so it isn't a variable here. So it's actually possible by using non flat protected tires and better flat protection (I've had number of flats with Schwalbe protected tires) it's possible to make up the weight of the rear Tannus. Of course using just Sealant at both ends would weigh even less, but I would give up the ride and handling advantage of the Tannus on the hardtail. FWIW the basic BB comes in several clownish colors. They weigh almost as much as the BB+ without the added protection. Only the black ones with a higher thread count carcass weigh what I show here. Schwalbe NA list the weight and spec. of all their tires.

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Looking into the weight penalty of the Tannus I started comparing similar Scwhalbe 26x2.15" tires with different flat protection schemes and the weight of the Tannus.
26x2.0-2.5 Tannus is 300g for 13mm flat protection layer and better ride.

Scwhalbe Big Ben is their base E bike tire in 26x2.15 is 760g. +Tannus 1060g. 30-55psi 128Kg Load capacity $48
Big Ben Plus with 3mm rubber flat layer is 935g. This makes it a little harder to fit the Tannus by tire size. + Tannus 1235g. 128Kg./ $45
Schwalbe Pickup 26x2.15 double ply truck type tire casing. 1090g. Addix E special rubber compound. +Tannus 1390g. 35-65psi 155Kg / $50

There's only about $5 difference in price between these. So by tire choice you can gain back some or even all of the weight penalty of the Tannus liner.
Notice that the Pickup tire with Tannus almost doubles the weight of the barebones Big Ben. I already had The BB+ on my bike, and keep some spares on hand, so I'm kind of comittted for a while.

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[AZguy]

Well it's good you have a solution that works for you

I know for me, once I did my stans thing and never got a flat again, it took that whole element of stress out of riding and made the somewhat religion/politics discussion of pumps vs. CO2 irrelevant LOL

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No flats. I've stopped being anal about glass on the bike path. I just move the big pieces now. I left my tire repair kit at home because I removed it to work on the brake cables. Didn't bother to put it back on for 3 days. The smooth ride and good handling are still there. I'm really enjoying this mod. It's going to be part of my Ebuilds going forward.

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Happy New Year. No flats since the last post. Tannus in the rear, Orange Seal in the front tube.Nice cushy ride on the hardtail. Beter handling.

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Still no flats on the road now that I've got them set up. if anyone wants to try this thet're on sale now 25% off.

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Still rockin' the Tannus. Still no flats, no regrets. I've done some riding on wet roads at night. Those conditions both contribute to flats.Wet objects penetrate easier, and night makes it harder to avoid them. I have noticed something strange. I used to stop almost every day to clean up broken beer bottles on the Greenway. I haven't had to do that at all for over a week. The tourists are here, more traffic.Maybe the bottle tossers are cleaning up after the hurricane on the other coast of FL?

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A couple more month in on this and no flats. An MC guy said zip ties are how he mounts these also. So I guess they come in MC sizes too.
I think the run flat feature on an Ebike would mostly smooth out the walk mode experience if you do manage to have a flat. It wasn't much use under power the one time I tried it.

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It was a dark and stormy night.
This is strange. I put the Stan's in the Tannus tube, and got a flat. It was in the front tire w/o a Tannus, but a flat none the less.
So if you want to try a Tannus with the Stannus let me know how it works out for you.
The flat was 12 miles form home, and I had trouble seating the bead with the compact pump. The extra delay put me head on into a storm, so I got soaked also. LOL

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I was having to put air in the rear every couple days. Since I had everything mounted and broken in I pulled the valve core and put the Stan's sealant back in. 23 mile ride, no flat this time. I just get on the bike and ride. Smoother ride better handling and no flats. I took all the rattles out of the bike too. Much nicer experience with the Tannus. I think maybe that's the way to that. Break it in then add sealer later.

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I've got a few months in on this project and still no flats. I stop less to clean up the trail. Only if there are big pieces. One of the biggest PITA flats was steel wires from blown out steel belted radials. You can't see them coming, they cause a slow leak that makes you try to get home, and can be almost impossible to find or remove from the tire. I've thrown away good tires that were infested with them. With the Tannus if I have any IDK about it. No flats and a much better riding and handling bike. Stan's in the tube is still working in the front.

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I've got some miles in on this thing now and I really like what it's done for the HT bike. Smooth out all of the little stuff. added some high speed damping that wasn't there before. I got all of the rattles out of the rack and fenders etc. The HT was always a little tricky to ride on the traffic circles. braking would tighten up the line, and acceleration would open it up due to front fork movement changing the head angle. Now I don't slow down as much and that results in less drama just blowing through the whole thing at higher speeds than before. I could see this working on a full suspension with a big hub motor also. Big luxury cars used big soft tires, and heavy live axles for years to get a smooth ride. No rear flats so far. I'm just using a sealed inner tube in the front. No flats there to start with, and the suspension fork does the rest. On a rigid bike I would do both ends. The damping might keep a fatbike from getting bouncy at high speeds, but no way to know for sure until somebody tries it.

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No flats so far. Having the bike off the road a while I got behind on cleaning broken glass off of the bike path. I got my wake up call today. Broken bottles, and 1" roofing nails sticking straight up. Big pieces of the bottles. Got back to cleaning it up. Big enough to take out a Tannus. All clear glass too. Would have been hard to see at night.