E-Bike makers are conspiring to prevent hod rodding their lame ass products

[TwentyIsJustTooDamnSlow_!]

"Under the Confederation of European Bicycle Industry (CONEBI), 15 national bicycle industry associations in Europe and 68 companies have signed onto an industry-wide commitment to prevent owners from hacking their e-bikes for more speed and power."

Whats with that word "hacking" as if its somehow criminal to play with and modify your own property.

"Hacking is the act of identifying and then exploiting weaknesses in a computer system or network, usually to gain unauthorized access to personal or organizational data."

You can't "hack" your own stuff just like you cant steal your own stuff.

Here is the article https://electrek.co/2021/09/30/europ...-to-go-faster/

[TwentyIsJustTooDamnSlow_!]

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I got a super idea !!!! Lets make e-bikes totally suck on the entire continent of Europe with some dumb ass 250 watt 15 mph rule !! That way e-bikes don't sell and people keep using their cars making both problems worse.

[AZguy]

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You can't "hack" your own stuff just like you cant steal your own stuff.

Not true! You may not like it but

If you modify the electrical box you own on the house you own to bypass the meter - you have broken the law (theft of service)... there are many other examples of "stealing services" through modifying ("hacking") personal property - this is just an old and egregious form

Presently many cars and even motos come with subscription based capabilities... nothing changes on the hardware you *own* (nor the software), just a code you have to pay for and if you manage to modify the vehicle you own to enable those capabilities without paying the subscription fees you have also broken the law ... I don't like this and will avoid it kicking and screaming but it exists and is only growing and for me to ignore it would make me ignorant...

[stts]

waste of time

[AZguy]

....These Bafangs are hack proof....

See here: https://github.com/OpenSourceEBike/B...S02_BBSHB/wiki

And here: https://github.com/danielnilsson9/bbs-fw

[stts]

waste of time

[73Eldo]

Bikes are the last thing I'm worried about not being able to 'hack' or even do any self service on. There are way more products I depend on more and that cost more that are already or will soon be pretty much locked and controlled by the mother ship. Among other things you better hope that mother ship stays in existence or you suddenly 'own' a large paperweight that you will have to pay someone to take away.

[stts]

waste of time

[dirtman]

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[stts]

waste of time

[Retrorockit]

Get an offroad EMTB. Put street tires on it. Problem solved.
In EU if you want a fast E bike, you get a registered, licensed, and insured "Pedelec" which would be a Moped here. It's considered a different class of vehicle. I think 50kph (31mph) is the speed limit for those, which is higher than our 28mph.

[TwentyIsJustTooDamnSlow_!]

Get an offroad EMTB. Put street tires on it. Problem solved.
In EU if you want a fast E bike, you get a registered, licensed, and insured "Pedelec" which would be a Moped here. It's considered a different class of vehicle. I think 50kph (31mph) is the speed limit for those, which is higher than our 28mph.

I got a meme for that.

[lectrik al]

As a very young lad I was taken to a 1910 steam operated pig iron blast furnace in my hometown in Canada.

I was most captivated by a spinning contraption with springs, levers, and moving arms with large brass balls on the ends. Everything in the whole Powerhouse was moving, hissing and running away, but the "merry go round" had me, and my daddy knew it.

As I grew older and could understand words, he would chuckle at my time to time bringing up the spinning thingy.

When he thought I could more fully grasp the concept of the randomly spinning thing I loved, he explained that the merry go round "Controlled " everything else in the whole steel plant!

It was called the Governor. Thru counter weights, springs, gravity, and centrifugal force, the governor decides the rpm of the entire operation.

That's what a governor does. According to what design parameters the governor was constructed for, it, (governor-government) decides how things run. maybe we need better designed "governors". sounds like somethin to vote on

[Retrorockit]

The government gave me a drivers license for vehicles up to 80.000# and 80' in length with unlimited horsepower (500+ is common). I just assume a 2hp bicycle should be OK.

[TwentyIsJustTooDamnSlow_!]

CONEBI president Erhard Büchel added: “We condemn very strongly the sales of tampering kits which endanger the safety of consumers as the e-bike is not designed for such an increased speed. We therefore call upon the European legislators to clearly forbid the sale, application and use of tampering equipment.” !!!

https://ebiketips.road.cc/content/news/amazon-slammed-for-selling-products-that-chip-or-tune-e-bike-motors-to-allow-higher

Not designed for the speed? Does it have automatic brakes that keep it from going over 15 mph down a big hill??

"Erhard Büchel"




What a total asshole.

[Retrorockit]

I wouldn't want to go 15mph on that piece of shit either. He's just getting free publicity for his cheap bikes.

[Retrorockit]

Lets crap up the roads with a bunch of slow E bike and piss off all the drivers.
Here in SoFla there are junk bicycles painted blue and chained up all over the place a few years ago. Now I know where they got them..