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  • Tommycat
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    [LAST] Wednesday's Tire Pressures Update!


    As of 6-6-2018...To recap. At this time I just changed my back tube with a thorn proof over sized one. It's been on the bike for a week. I try to take a couple mile bike ride every day. I plan on getting digital tire pressure readings once a week. My base line is skewed right off the bat :-( as I forgot to get the ambient temperature at the time of the first test and I started off 1 PSI low. Keep in mind, I'm doing my best to take a quick, solid one time reading...with the tires cold (setting awhile). but nothings perfect. Once read for the week, will try improvements recommended then reset to 40 PSI and start again. Bike rests on single stand.

    …...…......……...……..Ambient Temperature / Front Tire / Back Tire Corrective Action...…………………………..Comments:
    Base Line: 5-30-2018 UNKNOWN …………….39.0 PSI...… 39 PSI.. New Back Tube Installed
    6-6-2018...………….. 77 degrees ………......…35.0 PSI...… 30 PSI...Tightened Schrader Valve Cores (both)......Loss of 4 PSI front and 9 PSI back, seems excessive.
    6-13-2018...………… 75 degrees...……………36.5 PSI...… 38 PSI... Tightened cores a bit more (maximum) Added new valve stem caps with seals. Making progress! Loss -3.5 PSI front -2 PSI back.
    6-20-2018...………… 77 degrees...……………37.0 PSI...….38 PSI... Added Stans tire sealant to front tube. Finally adding some Stans! No change with new caps. Loss -3 PSI front -2 PSI back
    6-27-2018...………… 76 degrees...……………36.5 PSI...….38.5 PSI. Added Stans to the back tube. No improvement in front :-( Loss front -3.5 back -1.5
    7-4-2018...…………...80 degrees...…………….0.0 PSI...….37.5 PSI Front tire flat... :-P Ordered new thornproof tube. Loss Front -40 Back -2.5 Installed new front tube. 7-6-2018.
    7-11-2018...………….88 degrees...…………….37.5 PSI......37.0 PSI Could be as good as it gets...will add last bottle of Stans to back tube. Loss front -2.5 back- 3.
    7-18-2018...………….86 degrees...…………….35.0 PSI......35.0 PSI Even but low. Just added last bottle of Stans to back tube. Caps tightened. Loss front -5 back -5.
    7-25-2018...………….80 degrees...…………….39.0 PSI......38.0 PSI This is closest to where I'd like to be.



    Conclusions: Tubes leak. :-) My biggest gain was making sure the valve cores where tight, and that the stem caps where tight. I feel good about the thorn proof tubes from a tear and puncture resistance point.
    Maybe wrenching on the nipples with the tire under pressure tore my previous light skinned tubes. Still a mystery. Added extra protection in the front. Rear will be addressed also. Perhaps the Stans tube sealer will pay off in the future stopping a leak, but I don't see a difference now. Keeping my compressor as easy to use as possible. Eyeing a bit of a bulge/deformity in the back tire (sigh). Tires will be next.

    Well that's my data points as of now. Thanks to all for the responses.


    Best regards,
    T.C.

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  • Tommycat
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    Wednesday's Tire Pressures Update!


    As of 6-6-2018...To recap. At this time I just changed my back tube with a thorn proof over sized one. It's been on the bike for a week. I try to take a couple mile bike ride every day. I plan on getting digital tire pressure readings once a week. My base line is skewed right off the bat :-( as I forgot to get the ambient temperature at the time of the first test and I started off 1 PSI low. Keep in mind, I'm doing my best to take a quick, solid one time reading...with the tires cold (setting awhile). but nothings perfect. Once read for the week, will try improvements recommended then reset to 40 PSI and start again. Bike rests on single stand.

    …...…......……...……..Ambient Temperature / Front Tire / Back Tire Corrective Action...…………………………..Comments:
    Base Line: 5-30-2018 UNKNOWN …………….39.0 PSI...… 39 PSI.. New Back Tube Installed
    6-6-2018...………….. 77 degrees ………......…35.0 PSI...… 30 PSI...Tightened Schrader Valve Cores (both)......Loss of 4 PSI front and 9 PSI back, seems excessive.
    6-13-2018...………… 75 degrees...……………36.5 PSI...… 38 PSI... Tightened cores a bit more (maximum) Added new valve stem caps with seals. Making progress! Loss -3.5 PSI front -2 PSI back.
    6-20-2018...………… 77 degrees...……………37.0 PSI...….38 PSI... Added Stans tire sealant to front tube. Finally adding some Stans! No change with new caps. Loss -3 PSI front -2 PSI back
    6-27-2018...………… 76 degrees...……………36.5 PSI...….38.5 PSI. Added Stans to the back tube. No improvement in front :-( Loss front -3.5 back -1.5
    7-4-2018...…………...80 degrees...…………….0.0 PSI...….37.5 PSI Front tire flat... :-P Ordered new thornproof tube. Loss Front -40 Back -2.5 Installed new front tube. 7-6-2018.
    7-11-2018...………….88 degrees...…………….37.5 PSI......37.0 PSI Could be as good as it gets...will add last bottle of Stans to back tube. Loss front -2.5 back- 3.

    Last update and epilog next week.

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  • Rider
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    Sure that's not Nebraska? Lol...

  • max_volt
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    Iowa corn porn. Hard pore corn. Glad you are back in the saddle.
    Last edited by max_volt; 07-07-2018, 01:08 PM.

  • Rider
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    That explains a lot...

  • AZguy
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    Hahaha - max rated pressure for my tires is 20psi =]

  • Rider
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    You guys are running some seriously low PSI's. I generally run F-35/R-40 with my Surly ET's. Might go F-30/R-35 if off-road riding only.

  • Tommycat
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    Checked rim and nipples for sharp spots or edges and filed down... cut holes in first rim strip to fit around nipples. Then added another strip on top. (rubber cut from old tube) Very careful with install...

    On the road again! Bike path in Illinois!



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  • pure_mahem
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    Schwinn Cruiser 29er Death Trap Deluxe spent more time pushing it than riding it.

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  • Tommycat
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    Learned my lesson about pinching a tube a couple years ago while practicing on my road bike. Small skinny tire, extremely difficult to get on and off. My first 2 failed patches don't you know...
    My repairs all seem to fail with in 5 minutes after reinflation, after mounting in the tire. It's not a cut or hole, the air just seems to find a way out. I'm thinking that I am too impatient and don't let the glue dry thoroughly before setting the patch and/or not waiting long enough after setting the patch and rolling it down. How much time is necessary? Read something about a fingernail test? Would waiting a long time hurt at all?

    I plan on building up the rim, and will be sure and check for sharp spots. "
    Oh wait that was that walmart bike" Gulp...that's what this is off of. :-(

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  • pure_mahem
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    also realy check your rims even under the rim strip. I got a rim from hell a few years ago and i literally had to go over the entire rim with a file before putting rim tape on and getting it to work. Oh wait that was that walmart bike lol not saying thats your problem but you never know

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  • MoneyPit
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    This is operator error. Not judging. Everyone has to learn sometime and this is your time, Tommycat. Either you are nipping the tube with your levers as noted above, or you are letting the tube get caught between the rim and the tire ('snakebite' puncture, aka 'pinch flat').

    There is no way a flat can happen on its own to a thick Rema patch like that (which looks like it is well-placed and fully stuck on, so you are getting that part right) without there being some serious cutting force applied to it.

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  • Tommycat
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    You've convinced me to build it up a bit. Smooth out the bumps as it were.

  • ncmired
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    For rim strip, I use two layers of fiberglass shipping tape, with the width sized down to fit down in the rim well. I started doing this after noticing the ribber strips (in particular) sinking down into the spoke hole pockets with high pressure tire / tubes.

    Once you define the right width on the tape roll the unused remainder stays behind quite nicely, and one roll does a lot of rims ...

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  • Tommycat
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    Good question! Was thinking the same about the back tube as it's been off many times with the motor mounting. But the front...just the opposite. Maybe had it off once...
    And this tire and tube are soooooo easy to remove, hardly use the spoons at all. Just to get the first start, and always at the valve stem. Far from this hole...
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