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  • Retrorockit
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    I found the Big Ben to be much better than the big Apples. I see the BA as a light weight pedal bike tire. The BB has noticeably more traction when the tread is needed, resists flats better due to deeper tread, and wears longer.
    As far as being almost slicks, they both have the same surface to void ratio. Just deeper groove so they're just as "almost slick".
    Last edited by Retrorockit; 06-02-2024, 06:08 AM.

  • 73Eldo
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    I rode the almost slicks (Big Apple's) for a lot of miles and was planning to go back to them but I ended up getting the Extra Terrestrials that have some tread on them for the spring and fall where there tends to be a lot of sand and I don't think there is really that much difference in the rolling resistance and like you said about ending up in things like grass having a little tread is really nice. Maybe if I was to switch back and fourth in the same day the slicks would be a little smoother but with my current setup my ass is done well before my battery and the ET's are slightly larger so probably easier on the ass.

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  • Retrorockit
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    I just came across Rene HERSE Cycles. They're all bout Gravel and high performance Touring Bikes. Now these guys are hardcore racers. So prices are a bit steep. But they take performance seriously and do testing to see what actually works and what doesn't. Loaded touring bikes in the mountains are kind of like Ebikes to some extent.
    Here is their Tech Article page with a lot of info. on tires. They find that 26x2.3" is just as fast as anything else, and they run slicks on gravel and win!
    Product Information Tires Tech info Instructions and Solutions Brakes Cranks/Bottom Brackets Derailleurs Lights Fenders Racks Other Components Bike Tech Tires Why wider tires are not slower How wide is right for me? Tire pressure and performance Results of Bicycle Quarterly's tire tests Why 700C wheels…

    Anyway here is the 26" tire page.

    TBH the slicks won't end up on my Ebike. The occasional excursion onto wet grass at high speedss (planeed or otherwise) rules that out. My XC pedal bike will probably get some.
    Going from 26x2 Schwaalbe slicks to 26x2.3 and saving 160g. rotating mass each.
    But they have a reinforced version that may interest somebody.

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  • Retrorockit
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    AZguy rides desert and thorns are a problem. I took his advice, and run tubeless sealant in my tubes and haven't flatted since. I dropped down from the Big Ben+ thick belted tires to the regular Big Ben to save weight at the outer end. Still no flats.I ride street and it's working for me too.

  • Briantastic
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    I have been running a 29x2.4 Supermoto rear on my Bianchi E-Omnia for 2-3k miles. The Bianchi is portly at 70+lbs, and the riding position puts a lot of weight over the rear wheel. Not only has my rear wheel been flat prone on the original tires but I also had an issue with breaking spokes until my dealer finally gave me a custom built DT Swiss wheel with the nexus hub.

    The original tires were Vitoria e-randonneur, and they were bad. Slow rolling, mediocre flat protection, poor traction, and heavy. I have since replaced them with the marathon almotion in front and super koto rear.

    The almotion feels dramatically lighter, rolls fast, and has a similar tread to the Big Ben.

    The Super Moto I put in the rear is made differently than all the other marathon tires I’ve seen. The tread belt is very thick, and the sidewalls thinner and more supple. I caught a large nail in the tread at an angle, pulled two inches of nail out and it hadn’t pierced the tube. It is, however, heavy because of that thick tread belt. Wet traction on pavement is excellent, clearly it’s a pavement oriented tire. The more rubber touching the ground the better off you will be, tread on pavement only hurts bicycle traction.

    The wear cycle on these is crazy long so I don’t know if I will wear down first or the tire will. I think the marathon efficiency might work well and I like the feel of a lighter tire.

  • Retrorockit
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    I've got some time in on my new tire setup. Stan's Notubes or Orange seal in the front tube, Tannus liner in the rear (there is a separate thread on that). With Schwalbe Big Ben 26"x2.15" tires.
    These tires don't have the heavy flat prevention layers of the Big Ben Plus. Only the Black Big Ben tires have the Moped speed rating, and use a higher thread count casing than the others. They ride and handle much better than the stiff flat protected tires, and weigh less than those or the colored versions. No flats yet with this setup.

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  • Retrorockit
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    When swapping to the lighter tires to make up for the tannus weight I broke doen the rear tire, and it wasn't bad. It wasn't as lippery as new, and it had molded itself to the shape of the tire. It came in and out with the tube. Still no flats.

  • Retrorockit
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    The only flat I had was a failed brand new inner tube. I'm running the Stan's Notubes type sealant inside the tube also. I haven't had a flat.It would take an object 1/2 inch long, and then a hole big enough to defeat the tubeless tire sealant in the tube.There is supposed to be some run flat ability with them. I wasn't very impressed with it. The broken glass, and steel cord tire wires that ere causing flats before don't seem to be an issue any more.

  • ncmired
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    Retrorockit, hopefully, you haven't had the "pleasure" with the safeguards in place, but what's it like fixing a rear flat with the Tannus liner?
    Last edited by ncmired; 05-04-2023, 05:51 AM.

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  • Retrorockit
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    Schwalbe gave me a 50% coupon for the lumpy tires. I picked up some of the Ebike rated Big Ben w/o th extra flat protection layers. i'm running tubeless sealnt in the fornt tube, and a Tannus liner in the rear. The Strn's and tannus are working well togther, and the Schwalbe flat prevention not so much. The lighter tires will get the tire weight bacjkdown to where it was before.

  • Retrorockit
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    Bottom line here is that by careful selection of Schwalbe tires that don't have flat protection you can make up for the weight of a rear Tannus liner, and have better ride handling and flat protection, with no loss in acceleration. Schwalbe Tires NA has all the weight, tread compound and Ebike ratings listed.Only the Black Big Ben tires have all the features of the Big Ben Plus, without the heavy flat protection that isn't as good as Stan's in the tubes, and a rear Tannus liner.
    Schwalbe E-Bike Tires: Best driving comfort ✓ Latest technology ✓ Discover E-Bike Tires from Schwalbe North America online now!

  • Retrorockit
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    Maybe MLK day Wheels Up Guns Down would interest you. The police started confiscating the dirtbikes and quads, so now it's a bicycle event.They ride I-95 enmasse and block traffic.
    My brother used to commute Miami, he moved to NYC where it's safer.
    Or maybe the Tuesday night Critical Mass rides. Hordes of cyclist form a peloton at night and ride all over the place. One car backed out of a driveway in front of them. 23 of them hit the same car.
    One guy here had 3 Ebikes stolen last Dec. 2 at once off his yacht while he was sleeping on it. This was FTL not Miami.
    Last edited by Retrorockit; 03-01-2023, 06:26 AM.

  • Retrorockit
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    Don't feel bad most of the bikes in Miami have been stolen twice.
    It's almost a form of bike share.

  • Retrorockit
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    Yep rode it until the slow leaking tires went flat, dumped it, then stole another one.

  • Retrorockit
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    I updated the Tannus Tire Liner thread in DIY Forum and added some info about the weight of various flat resistant tires Vs. the Tannus liners.
    I ordered a couple of these for my bike. Kind of like pool noodles made for bike tires. 15mm thick which with Scwalbe Big Ben Plus e bike tires=20mm flat protection.. They claim smoother ride, better grip, and some run flat capability. I didn't watch any Youtube , I just dived right in like an average bicycle enthusiast As

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