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  • 73Eldo
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    My possible slight squeak that I thought was lack of chain lube turned out to be my rear rotor starting to rub on the inside of the caliper. They are Avid BB7mtns and I must have not had much pad sticking out and apparently used up what was there. I was thinking I was due for an adjustment anyway just needed tools but I had it in the stand for the lube job so no big deal.

    I did look somewhat close at the jockey wheels and there really isn't much build up on them at all after around 500 miles of Squirt lube now. In that time I have never done any sort of cleaning or wiping of the chain other than the initial deep clean to convert to the Squirt. The Jockey wheels get quite a bit of lube since I move the chain in the normal direction when I apply the lube on the bottom/inside of the chain. The lower wheel ends up completely coated and dripping with the lube because that wheel is the first thing it hits after only being on the chain a few seconds. Same thing with the cassette. I try not to be in the same gear when I apply the lube but I really don't see any significant build up in any of them.

    I'm gonna try the 40-50 mile intervals for a while instead of my closer to 100 and see if I see any build up issues. If not then its not a big deal to do it that often if it will make things last a bit longer.

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  • Dshue
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    I usually average 40 miles per ride and after each ride I wipe the chain off and re lube. After every 3 or 4 rides I wipe down the jockey wheels and clean the cassette, chain and chainring with a brush and compressed air.
    I don't ride in the rain, if I can help it.
    Wiping the chain down and applying lube after a 40 mile ride only takes 5 minutes and focuses my attention on the primary wear points so I don't see it as a burden.

    I believe that my chain has right at 450 miles on it. And no appreciable wear yet.

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  • AZguy
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    It varies a lot for me... if I'm going to go out on a ride that's going to be 15-20mi or more I'll generally lube before the ride... If I've only been doing short rides it will be when I think about it however a longer ride is usually never far away except this time of year... but I'll bet the chain sees fresh lube every 20-60mi

    I'm a believer in the philosophy that I don't give a hoot about what kind of lube, just do it frequently, and that has served me very well... >3000mi on the last chain and less than 1.5mm total stretch...

  • Retrorockit
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    Every other day is correct. Since I rivet my chain it's not that much work. Just brush off the old wax and drip some new wax on.

  • 73Eldo
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    40 miles is an interesting number that would be 1 or 2 days for me. Anyone else care to chime in with how often they lube and with what and what sort of riding they are doing like how dirty or wet?

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  • Retrorockit
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    For bicycles Squirt is a readily availabkle wax lube that shifts well. Maybe the Honda lube would be good for an IGH bike? I find that every 40 miles or so is a good period for E bike chains. Probably because they're running beyond their intended load on a BBSHD bike.

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  • SurPaully
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    No issues TNT, as I trust your intent especially with your background. And I have no issues if someone proves me wrong for their use and riding conditions. Lol-

  • TNC
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    And Paully, my comments were certainly no dismissal of your suggestion because I certainly haven't run across all the products out there. I also still do some part time work at a motorcycle shop I've worked at since the 70's, and I've worked at a bicycle shop since 2004. Chain lube debates can get as cantankerous as engine oil debates...LOL! Bicycle chains and their multi-cog cassettes can be real PITA's when it comes to lube and where the bike is ridden. I see a lot of difference when it comes to roadies vs. mountain bikers, and there are some lubes that seem to work for both...but there is never any consensus across the board...LOL!

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  • SurPaully
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    Yes, a 2021 Sur Ron, and you are correct-no shifting mechanism. I’ve used it on my Specialized FatBoy, mostly used on road. But you bring up a great point-certain riding conditions, as well as cassette type gears might get gummy vs the slickness of TriFlow. I’ve been using it on any application that has a chain due to little or no fling. If you clean chain first(WD40) and let the Honda chain lube dry for a while, wipe off excess, fling free for most part. It contains Moly & PTFE. $9 for a 15oz can at the Honda Dealer in Santa Rosa.

  • SurPaully
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    Yes, all Honda dealerships carry this. I use it on quads, dirt bikes, pit bike, street bike, and now the Sur Ron

  • TNC
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    Originally posted by SurPaully View Post
    I have great success using Pro Honda Chain Lube. If you clean the chain first, apply, let it dry, then wipe, it doesn’t fling & lasts for a long time. Touching chain no longer leaves a mess and no fling to clean off motor & spokes.
    Being a dirt and street motorcycle guy too, I'm going to say beware of moto chain lubes. No, I'm not first hand familiar with the Honda product, but I can say over years of trying all manner of motorcycle level chain lubes, I haven't seen one yet that is truly suitable for a cassette style bicycle drivetrain. The reason is because of heat, pressure, and speed of a motorcycle chain. Anything I'm aware of that will stay on a motorcycle chain has always made the shifting, jockey wheels, and cassette gum up or get stiff. A bicycle chain has to remain quite flexible for good shifting, and there have even been bicycle specific chain lubes that screwed that up.

    Paully, I'm not saying you couldn't have stumbled on to the holy grail of chain lubes, but I haven't seen one yet to truly cross over. Paully, you have "Sur" in your screen name. Are you a Sur-Ron owner? I could see a good motorcycle chain lube working on a Sur-Ron perfectly since it uses a motorcycle chain and the chain is not a shifting mechanism.

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  • 73Eldo
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    No mess sounds like it would be worth a try. I assume its available at places that sell Honda parts?

    On yesterdays ride I think at times I heard a slight squeak from my chain. I know its been a few weeks since I lubed it but with work picking up i don't think I have that many miles on, maybe the low 100's. When I was averaging 20 miles per day 4-5 days a week weekly seemed to be plenty unless it got wet so I guess maybe for me 100 or so miles is the magic lube number.

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  • SurPaully
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    I have great success using Pro Honda Chain Lube. If you clean the chain first, apply, let it dry, then wipe, it doesn’t fling & lasts for a long time. Touching chain no longer leaves a mess and no fling to clean off motor & spokes.

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  • Beachbum
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    The motorcycle community have been on the wax chain lube for a long time. Big spray cans that seem to last forever. Old School “bikers” I have known would boil a clean new chain isa mix that included paraffin. I like the spray on Wax and use it regularly on my bicycles, bikes and Ebikes.

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  • Retrorockit
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    The wax lubes seem to form a "dry" shell that doesn't transfer as easily as oil based lubes. They get just as dirty, but stay where you put them better.

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